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Forums - Sales Discussion - Monster Hunter 4 outsold the Vita!

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Hanged by the penis until dead. 70 35.00%
 
Drawn. 8 4.00%
 
Quartered. 3 1.50%
 
Drawn AND quartered. 13 6.50%
 
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orniletter on 18 September 2013

today is a great day



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badgenome on 18 September 2013
morenoingrato said:
We endured months of "would have been better on Vita", "it will bomb on 3DS" and "it looks much worse than the PSP version", so get over it already.

You poor dears.



badgenome on 18 September 2013
Talal said:

You may be right, but I feel like you're overestimating the power of MH. 

Sony underestimated the power of MH and look where it got them!



Kasz216 on 18 September 2013
badgenome said:
Kasz216 said:

As for hunting action genre.... again, that's oversimplistic thinking.

How many people do you know that only like one genre of game?  A vast minority, right?

We're talking about a specific series that has shown very steady sales despite a platform change. So whatever fans it might have lost (and I doubt it lost many) from the jump to Nintendo, it made up for with new fans. It hasn't brought a whole new audience to the franchise or shown some kind of tremendous growth. It's being bought by largely the same people who bought it on the PSP.

So what is the argument that it would have performed markedly worse if it had been released on the Vita instead? "Because the Vita is selling so poorly" seems to be the argument, but that is overly simplistic thinking. The Vita is largely fucked because it lost the PSP's biggest franchise, but the PSP's biggest franchise wouldn't have been fucked if it had actually shown up on the Vita.

 

 

Well first off, you can't accurately call it steady sales, not until next week.

 

It sold shipped 2 million in four days....  which Monster Hunter 3 had sure.  It won't be until 3-4 weeks until you know if the sales are steady or not and what is related to supply.    You'll want to see if it's within ~60,000 within 600,000 or so before you judge that, etc.

They predicted 2.8 Million by March interestingly... so one would assume Capcom expected it to sell less then the PSP MH.   

 

Secondly, Vita was fucked and never going to be the PSP Long before it lost Monster Hunter.  Unless it pulled out some X-factor.    As can be seen by the fact that Vita isn't hitting PSP numbers like it did before Monster Hunter became a big thing.


That alone shows it would of shaved off at least SOME Monster Hunter base.  



Kasz216 on 18 September 2013
attaboy said:
Kasz216 said:
badgenome said:
the_dengle said:

That said, I don't think MH would have sold quite as well on the Vita. The MH faithful would have bought one, but it clearly has a larger market to attract on the 3DS.

I do think you can find that, sometimes, a game's target audience is resistant to buying a certain platform or a particular console's user base is more receptive to certain games. Certainly JRPGs didn't move the needle much for the 360, and there have been late Wii->PS3 ports that sold better than the original releases despite the much smaller user base.

You are missing the more obvious point though.

Most people won't buy a system for 1 game.


Software drives hardware sales, which drives other games software sales.  They both feed into each other.  It's not either or.


I agree.  But there are gamers that buy a system for THE GAME with other lesser games to back up the purchase.  Vita has lots of good games but it still doesn't have that heavy hitter. 

Some, sure.  I'd say that isn't true for the majority though, even for buyers of huge franchises. 

Actually for big franchises that's more true than anything, since they are big specifically because they appeal to multiple audiences.



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Talal on 18 September 2013
badgenome said:
Talal said:

You may be right, but I feel like you're overestimating the power of MH. 

Sony underestimated the power of MH and look where it got them!


I couldn't agree more with that!

I've always said that allowing MH to go exclusively on the 3DS was the biggest mistake they've made in a very long time. It was the PSP's Pokemon.



SxyxS on 18 September 2013

Well, I already told you everything about that.(good selling game on a system with huge install base(psp) being ported on a(at that time)bad selling system(3ds)without problems,but right now this good selling game on a system with a huge install base(3ds) can"t be ported on another bad selling system(vita).=0 logic.
Now you starting to agree somehow.

is hardware selling software? yes.the more hardware the bigger the chance to sell a copy(especially niche products benefit from this)




Lawlight on 18 September 2013

I doubt MH4 sold more than 5.7M.



orniletter on 18 September 2013
Lawlight said:
I doubt MH4 sold more than 5.7M.


He was obviously talking about the japanese install base

...oh and btw. are you happy with the "decline" of the franchise ?



badgenome on 18 September 2013
Kasz216 said:

Secondly, Vita was fucked and never going to be the PSP Long before it lost Monster Hunter.  Unless it pulled out some X-factor.    As can be seen by the fact that Vita isn't hitting PSP numbers like it did before Monster Hunter became a big thing.


That alone shows it would of shaved off at least SOME Monster Hunter base.  

I don't think it does show that. The PSP came at a time when the Playstation brand was the fucking KING. It had a Vita-esque software line-up and still sold like crazy just by virtue of being a PS2 1.5 in your pocket. Once that cooled, it was Monster Hunter that pretty much saved the day. Like I said to Talal, I think that Monster Hunter could only have exploded on a system with such a large existing user base, but I don't think that a known quantity like Monster Hunter is today would necessarily sell worse on the Vita just because it's struggling. Especially if those struggles are in large part because of no MonHun.

We'll have to wait on legs, I agree. It just doesn't seem like Capcom has gained or lost anything ever since Tri. At this point, Monster Hunter is what it is.