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Hello, I was talking to a friend about Sony and Microsoft next consoles, he didnt know what to get(He's a X360 user but enjoys playing Sony explusives too) so I tell him to wait 2 years or so when, probably, next gen winner will be more evident and there will be a lot of next gen games to try, and console prices will be lower. I told him to buy a better PC, play some PC's exclusives and some next gen games too. He told me that was a very expensive idea, and I said I will build a cheap gaming PC comparable with next gen consoles. So here's my build.

This build is mostly for gaming, trying to keep components within next gen budget and performance, while still having quality components for well know brands mostly:

Case 16$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353006
DVD unit 20$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
PSU 450W 40$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045
HDD 500GB 55$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148765
DDR3 Ram 8 Gb 62$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161452
CPU Quad Core 3.4 Ghz 85$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113328
Motherboard 50$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130661
GPU HD 7870 ghz 2 gb GDRR5 160$(rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025
HDMI Cable 4$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021128

Total Base: 492$

Keyboard Mouse Combo:
1)Cheapest 20$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126097
2)Cheap gaming 45$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2V511G4387
3) Wireless 50$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126192
4) Good Gaming 51$http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823334012 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146031

OS: 
Linux: Free
Windows 8 64 bit 100$http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550

Step Up:(price over base) 
Case:
Bitfenix Prodigy 70$(54$): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345016
GPU: HD 7950 3 GB GDDR5 180$(20$): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127737
ITX Mobo 85$(35$): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157363
PSU 600W 80 plus Certified 50$(10$) rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256071

Total Price over base: 109$

Advantages:

-Better GPU than Xbox One according to rumors
-Slighty better GPU than PS4
-Better CPU than both consoles
-More total Ram(8 Gb DDR3+ 2 Gb GDRR5) than both consoles
-Can put Mods on games
-Can overclock for better performance
-Multi monitor support
-Use for multimedia and working
-New games are 10$ cheaper most of the time(6 games a year for 5 years its 300$ less than consoles)
-EXCELLENT promotions and discounts
-Free online multiplayer(50$ for 5 years is 250$ less than consoles)
-Upgradeable
-Reusable parts for upgrade
-Multiple inputs options(Mouse, keyboard, gamepad, etc)
-More free to play games
-PC exclusives
-Steam Family Sharing with gives a lot of freedom to play and try games within your family or friends group
-Could burn you own DVDs and CDs

Disadvantages:

-More expensive shipping cost than consoles
-No OS cost added on base
-No controller or input device added on base
-Games are not fully optimised for its hardware
-Need to build it yourseft(or added to for someone to do it for you)
-No Bluray drive for movies
-Probably worse audio quality than consoles
-No kinect 2.0
-Can't trade in games
- Games not optimized for a default controller or needed to manual setup
- Games not optimized for tv (small fonts, overscan area used)
- Less focus on local multiplayer / splitscreen 
-Missing PS+ Free games and promotions
-Its way bigger in size
-More trouble getting games started
-Drivers issues
-Console exclusives
-Consoles hold better with time

Comparative table:

 

  Xbox One PS4 This Build Step up
CPU Cores/Threads 8/8
(2for OS?)
8/8 
(2 for OS?)
4/4 4/4
CPU Frequency 1.6GHz? 1.6GHz 3.4Ghz* 3.4Ghz*
CPU Architecture AMD Jaguar AMD Jaguar AMD Piledriver AMD Piledriver
Shared L2 Cache 2 x 2MB 2 x 2MB 2 x 2MB 2 x 2MB
GPU Cores 768 1152 1280 1792
Peak Shader Throughput(% difference) 1.23 TFLOPS
(0%)
1.84 TFLOPS
(50%)
 2.56 TFLOPS*(108%) 2.87 TFLOPS*
(133%)
Embedded Memory 32MB eSRAM No No  No 
Embedded Memory Bandwidth 102GB/s No No  No 
System Memory 8GB 2133MHz DDR3 8GB 5500MHz GDDR5 8 GB 1600MHz DDR3* + 8 GB 1600MHz DDR3* +
2 GB 4800 Mhz GDDR5* 3 GB 5000 Mhz GDDR5*
RAM reserved for OS  3 GB 3.5 GB Less than 2 GB DDR3  Less than 2 GB DDR3 
System Memory Bus 256-bits 256-bits 256-bits? 384-bits?
System Memory Bandwidth 68.3 GB/s 176.0 GB/s 153.6 GB/s GDDR5
12.8 GB/s DDR3?
240 GB/s GDDR5
12.8 GB/s DDR3?
Manufacturing Process 28nm 28nm 32nm CPU 32nm CPU
28nm GPU 28nm GPU
Extra Kinect 2.0 PS+ Free Games(if apply) 2 Free Games 3 Free Games
Disk drive Blu ray Blu ray DVD burner DVD Burner
Online Multiplayer(5 years) 300$ 250$ 0$ 0$
New Games 60$ 60$ 50-60$ 50-60$
Controller Yes Yes No No
Base Price 499$ Base 399$ Base 492$ Base  601$ Base
Keyboard and Mouse No No 20$ 51$
OS No No 100$ 100$

Total ownership over 5 years**

799$ 650$ 612$ 752$

*Could be overclocked for better performance
**Excluding games cost

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CPU Intel i5 2500K at 4.5 Ghz / Gigabyte Z68 Mobo / 8 Gb Corsair Vengeance 1600 mhz / Sapphire HD 7970 Dual X Boost / Corsair Obsidian 550d 

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how loud is it? and wheres the audio?

well you should add that with PS+ he is getting tons of games for his PS4 and if he has any other PlaySation consoles.

also you should add the controller inputs costs to the PC too. a good mouse + keyboard for gaming dont come in cheap most of the time. and a 360 controller for a PC costs around 60 bucks.

however, PC has piracy

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kirby007 said:
how loud is it? and wheres the audio?

Problably its within acceptable levels of noise because it only have 1 case fan, cpu and gpu fans are most of the time very quiet too. Audio is coming from motherboard so it will be Ok, consoles will probably have better audio(adding to disadvantages)



PS Vita and PC gamer

CPU Intel i5 2500K at 4.5 Ghz / Gigabyte Z68 Mobo / 8 Gb Corsair Vengeance 1600 mhz / Sapphire HD 7970 Dual X Boost / Corsair Obsidian 550d 

Great build, altough, for the price you're paying for this CPU, you could get the Athlon X4 750K, which will be much better for overclocking since it has an unlocked multiplier and it is only $5 more than the X4 740.



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RazorDragon said:

Great build, altough, for the price you're paying for this CPU, you could get the Athlon X4 750K, which will be much better for overclocking since it has an unlocked multiplier and it is only $5 more than the X4 740.

Thanks, added.



PS Vita and PC gamer

CPU Intel i5 2500K at 4.5 Ghz / Gigabyte Z68 Mobo / 8 Gb Corsair Vengeance 1600 mhz / Sapphire HD 7970 Dual X Boost / Corsair Obsidian 550d 

Not a bad build at all, ur not gonna get much better at that price and it really gives great bang for the buck.

I dont even have to tell u about the dangers of cheap PSUs since u went with antec. They're trustworthy enough. =)

Careful with overclocking though, since that mobo seems to be budget. No idea how it handles if u raise up some currents. I would recommend reading about it a bit.



Vashyo said:
Not a bad build at all, ur not gonna get much better at that price and it really gives great bang for the buck.

I dont even have to tell u about the dangers of cheap PSUs since u went with antec. They're trustworthy enough. =)

Careful with overclocking though, since that mobo seems to be budget. No idea how it handles if u raise up some currents. I would recommend reading about it a bit.


Yep, but I wanted to stay within the 400$ to 500$ of next gen, so thats why I cheaped the Mobo(probably no much need to OC because CPU is already better than 4bone), next step its FX 6300 with mobo(around 220$ more) next its the 3570k or 4670k with a Z77 or Z87 mobo(around 360$ more)



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CPU Intel i5 2500K at 4.5 Ghz / Gigabyte Z68 Mobo / 8 Gb Corsair Vengeance 1600 mhz / Sapphire HD 7970 Dual X Boost / Corsair Obsidian 550d 

You need more VRAM... games will start to use a lot of VRAM... BF4 is already showing that.

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Don't buy a PC lol. Right now is THE WORST time to be buying a gaming rig. Unless you plan to go way over the console prices, your rig will not out perform them this November and it will really fall behind in a few years. Much smarter is buying a PC a few years into the gen so that it's fairly cheap to get better than console graphics.

What he should do is buy a PS4 or xbone close to launch when the console to pc graphics ratio is most favorable.