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Captain_Tom on 09 September 2013
Th3PANO said:
Captain_Tom said:
RolStoppable said:
Captain_Tom said:
Roma said:
If I knew how to handle stock I would have bought some Nintendo stock as I see them rising a lot in the coming moths

This baffles my mind.  You think they are about to do even better even though that is when they will actually have competition?!

Of course Nintendo will do better then, because the competition will face a real life evaluation instead of an imaginative one.


The only imaginating going on here is you and others who think harder competition will increase Wii U sales.  Then again, you thought SSBB would outsell GTAIV so figures...

People will see Wii U's value after the console transition. $300 + Game vs $400 vs $500 + Game doesn't look so bad if you think about it. Also, the time PS4 and Xbox are launching Wii U will have new and important titles ready. It WILL sell better then now.

What value?  Right now the Wii U is being DESTROYED by the PS3.  The PS3 won't disapear when the PS4 launches.  In fact it is now starting at $200 with room for another price cut in the future...



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Th3PANO on 09 September 2013
Captain_Tom said:
Th3PANO said:
Captain_Tom said:
RolStoppable said:
Captain_Tom said:
Roma said:
If I knew how to handle stock I would have bought some Nintendo stock as I see them rising a lot in the coming moths

This baffles my mind.  You think they are about to do even better even though that is when they will actually have competition?!

Of course Nintendo will do better then, because the competition will face a real life evaluation instead of an imaginative one.


The only imaginating going on here is you and others who think harder competition will increase Wii U sales.  Then again, you thought SSBB would outsell GTAIV so figures...

People will see Wii U's value after the console transition. $300 + Game vs $400 vs $500 + Game doesn't look so bad if you think about it. Also, the time PS4 and Xbox are launching Wii U will have new and important titles ready. It WILL sell better then now.

What value?  Right now the Wii U is being DESTROYED by the PS3.  The PS3 won't disapear when the PS4 launches.  In fact it is now starting at $200 with room for another price cut in the future...


You could say the same about the new Consoles. It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy. And it will happen with PS 4 and Xbox also.



Seece on 09 September 2013
Th3PANO said:
Captain_Tom said:
Th3PANO said:
Captain_Tom said:
RolStoppable said:
Captain_Tom said:
Roma said:
If I knew how to handle stock I would have bought some Nintendo stock as I see them rising a lot in the coming moths

This baffles my mind.  You think they are about to do even better even though that is when they will actually have competition?!

Of course Nintendo will do better then, because the competition will face a real life evaluation instead of an imaginative one.


The only imaginating going on here is you and others who think harder competition will increase Wii U sales.  Then again, you thought SSBB would outsell GTAIV so figures...

People will see Wii U's value after the console transition. $300 + Game vs $400 vs $500 + Game doesn't look so bad if you think about it. Also, the time PS4 and Xbox are launching Wii U will have new and important titles ready. It WILL sell better then now.

What value?  Right now the Wii U is being DESTROYED by the PS3.  The PS3 won't disapear when the PS4 launches.  In fact it is now starting at $200 with room for another price cut in the future...


You could say the same about the new Consoles. It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy. And it will happen with PS 4 and Xbox also.

Not really, given how long this generation has gone on they will be selling low enough for next gen consoles to sell above that. When PS3, Wii launched PS2 was still doing 200k+ weekly.



 

Th3PANO on 09 September 2013
Seece said:
Th3PANO said:
Captain_Tom said:
Th3PANO said:
Captain_Tom said:
RolStoppable said:
Captain_Tom said:
Roma said:
If I knew how to handle stock I would have bought some Nintendo stock as I see them rising a lot in the coming moths

This baffles my mind.  You think they are about to do even better even though that is when they will actually have competition?!

Of course Nintendo will do better then, because the competition will face a real life evaluation instead of an imaginative one.


The only imaginating going on here is you and others who think harder competition will increase Wii U sales.  Then again, you thought SSBB would outsell GTAIV so figures...

People will see Wii U's value after the console transition. $300 + Game vs $400 vs $500 + Game doesn't look so bad if you think about it. Also, the time PS4 and Xbox are launching Wii U will have new and important titles ready. It WILL sell better then now.

What value?  Right now the Wii U is being DESTROYED by the PS3.  The PS3 won't disapear when the PS4 launches.  In fact it is now starting at $200 with room for another price cut in the future...


You could say the same about the new Consoles. It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy. And it will happen with PS 4 and Xbox also.

Not really, given how long this generation has gone on they will be selling low enough for next gen consoles to sell above that. When PS3, Wii launched PS2 was still doing 200k+ weekly.

You expect too much from PS4 and Xbox One man. I can't wait when the buzz of "extremely high pre orders" dies after the launch and seeing the weekly sales after a few months. Fanboys will hit reality sooner as they think.



Seece on 09 September 2013
Th3PANO said:
Seece said:
Th3PANO said:


You could say the same about the new Consoles. It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy. And it will happen with PS 4 and Xbox also.

Not really, given how long this generation has gone on they will be selling low enough for next gen consoles to sell above that. When PS3, Wii launched PS2 was still doing 200k+ weekly.

You expect too much from PS4 and Xbox One man. I can't wait when the buzz of "extremely high pre orders" dies after the launch and seeing the weekly sales after a few months. Fanboys will hit reality sooner as they think.

First of all, don't call me a fanboy, I think Xbox One will struggle (relative to expectations, but still above WiiU by a big % margin) and that PS4 will be fine.

Secondly, it simply comes across as wishful thinking that PS4 and Xbox One will struggle simply because WiiU is, there is no reason that they will, we've seen in the past that high price tags do not affect sales to the level they're affecting WiiU, why should this time be any different??

I mean 360 will be doing an average of 50k a week most weeks next year and PS3 80k~ it's really not going to be difficult for their successors to out do those numbers.



 

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Captain_Tom on 09 September 2013

People will see Wii U's value after the console transition. $300 + Game vs $400 vs $500 + Game doesn't look so bad if you think about it. Also, the time PS4 and Xbox are launching Wii U will have new and important titles ready. It WILL sell better then now.

What value?  Right now the Wii U is being DESTROYED by the PS3.  The PS3 won't disapear when the PS4 launches.  In fact it is now starting at $200 with room for another price cut in the future...


You could say the same about the new Consoles. It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy. And it will happen with PS 4 and Xbox also.

And this is where you and people like you don't get it:   The PS4 and even the Xbox One are insanely more powerful and feature-filled compared to the Wii U.

The PS4:

-Is 10x stronger (Litterally)

-Has over 16x more storage

-Plays Bluerays

-Has incredible multi tasking, social, and streaming capabilities.

 

Now before you say (Again) "But the same goes for the PS3."  I preemptively say: Duh!

 

But the PS3 is:

-$100 cheaper

-Plays Bluerays

-Has a MUCH MUCH MUUUUUUUUCH better network

-Has a vastly larger catalog of games (Oftenly at cheaper prices).

 

Thus the Wii U loses on both fronts.  That is why it is doing so terribly and with a GTAV PS3 bundle coming this holiday I don't see that turning around.

 

P.S. OMG the meltdowns from Nintendo fanboys will be EPIC!!!



Th3PANO on 09 September 2013
Seece said:
Th3PANO said:
Seece said:
Th3PANO said:
 


You could say the same about the new Consoles. It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy. And it will happen with PS 4 and Xbox also.

Not really, given how long this generation has gone on they will be selling low enough for next gen consoles to sell above that. When PS3, Wii launched PS2 was still doing 200k+ weekly.

You expect too much from PS4 and Xbox One man. I can't wait when the buzz of "extremely high pre orders" dies after the launch and seeing the weekly sales after a few months. Fanboys will hit reality sooner as they think.

First of all, don't call me a fanboy, I think Xbox One will struggle (relative to expectations, but still above WiiU by a big % margin) and that PS4 will be fine.

Secondly, it simply comes across as wishful thinking that PS4 and Xbox One will struggle simply because WiiU is, there is no reason that they will, we've seen in the past that high price tags do not affect sales to the level they're affecting WiiU, why should this time be any different??

I mean 360 will be doing an average of 50k a week most weeks next year and PS3 80k~ it's really not going to be difficult for their successors to out do those numbers.

Where did I say that I expect Wii U levels?



Captain_Tom on 09 September 2013

You expect too much from PS4 and Xbox One man. I can't wait when the buzz of "extremely high pre orders" dies after the launch and seeing the weekly sales after a few months. Fanboys will hit reality sooner as they think.

First of all, don't call me a fanboy, I think Xbox One will struggle (relative to expectations, but still above WiiU by a big % margin) and that PS4 will be fine.

Secondly, it simply comes across as wishful thinking that PS4 and Xbox One will struggle simply because WiiU is, there is no reason that they will, we've seen in the past that high price tags do not affect sales to the level they're affecting WiiU, why should this time be any different??

I mean 360 will be doing an average of 50k a week most weeks next year and PS3 80k~ it's really not going to be difficult for their successors to out do those numbers.

Where did I say that I expect Wii U levels?


And I quote: "It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy."  

You were clearly insinuating it...



Th3PANO on 09 September 2013
Captain_Tom said:

You expect too much from PS4 and Xbox One man. I can't wait when the buzz of "extremely high pre orders" dies after the launch and seeing the weekly sales after a few months. Fanboys will hit reality sooner as they think.

First of all, don't call me a fanboy, I think Xbox One will struggle (relative to expectations, but still above WiiU by a big % margin) and that PS4 will be fine.

Secondly, it simply comes across as wishful thinking that PS4 and Xbox One will struggle simply because WiiU is, there is no reason that they will, we've seen in the past that high price tags do not affect sales to the level they're affecting WiiU, why should this time be any different??

I mean 360 will be doing an average of 50k a week most weeks next year and PS3 80k~ it's really not going to be difficult for their successors to out do those numbers.

Where did I say that I expect Wii U levels?


And I quote: "It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy."  

You were clearly insinuating it...

LOL you know (as you said) PS3 gets another cheaper model. It will sell a little more with new titles this year like GT6 (biggest Sony IP) then what it sells right NOW. Don't interprete stuff into something that isn't there.



Th3PANO on 09 September 2013
Captain_Tom said:

People will see Wii U's value after the console transition. $300 + Game vs $400 vs $500 + Game doesn't look so bad if you think about it. Also, the time PS4 and Xbox are launching Wii U will have new and important titles ready. It WILL sell better then now.

What value?  Right now the Wii U is being DESTROYED by the PS3.  The PS3 won't disapear when the PS4 launches.  In fact it is now starting at $200 with room for another price cut in the future...


You could say the same about the new Consoles. It's almost natural that the older consoles outsell the new ones after launch months buddy. And it will happen with PS 4 and Xbox also.

And this is where you and people like you don't get it:   The PS4 and even the Xbox One are insanely more powerful and feature-filled compared to the Wii U.

The PS4:

-Is 10x stronger (Litterally)

-Has over 16x more storage

-Plays Bluerays

-Has incredible multi tasking, social, and streaming capabilities.

 

Now before you say (Again) "But the same goes for the PS3."  I preemptively say: Duh!

 

But the PS3 is:

-$100 cheaper

-Plays Bluerays

-Has a MUCH MUCH MUUUUUUUUCH better network

-Has a vastly larger catalog of games (Oftenly at cheaper prices).

 

Thus the Wii U loses on both fronts.  That is why it is doing so terribly and with a GTAV PS3 bundle coming this holiday I don't see that turning around.

 

P.S. OMG the meltdowns from Nintendo fanboys will be EPIC!!!

And you should know by now that power doesn't mean anything for the average joe.

EDIT: How do you know that the network is so much better lol. Nintendo Network seems fine. I never had a disconnect or lag or anything else. Sorry bro. AAAAAAND I don't have to pay for it in the future.