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Future Xbox One buyers might owe a thanks to Sony for Elder Scrolls Online

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S.T.A.G.E. said:

 PSN+ was Sonys answer to profiting off of online gaming without taking away the complete online experience. Microsoft cashing on online and getting away with it. They added value to their already established online system to lure people into investing in it. Then they made it mandatory for online play in PS4.


No matter how you want to embellish it, that's it.



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Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

 PSN+ was Sonys answer to profiting off of online gaming without taking away the complete online experience. Microsoft cashing on online and getting away with it. They added value to their already established online system to lure people into investing in it. Then they made it mandatory for online play in PS4.


No matter how you want to embellish it, that's it.


No. You see...Sony hasn't forced people to pay for the lionshare of the online experience, therefore I am not embellishing a thing.



S.T.A.G.E. said:


No. You see...Sony hasn't forced yet people to pay for the lionshare of the online experience, therefore I am not embellishing a thing.


:/



This thread should be locked. It's just ridiculous.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Lulz said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

PSN has everything to do with Xbox Live, its just free (still is for the most part). PSN+ was not comparable in any way until Games for Gold. The founding structure was payment for a steady stream of games on a weekly to monthly basis.

You don't think the "+" has anything to do with the fat stacks of cash MS has been pulling in from XBL and Sony wanting a piece of that sweet pie? The free games are just a way to ease the pain for everyone that is constantly whining about having to pay for things that for some reason they think should be free.


LOL...Xbox Live Gold robs the average gamer who doesn't want online multiplayer from enjoying the free nature of online. The cannot access their non-Xbox Live related subscriptions nor anything. Even though Sony upgraded multiplayer to PSN Plus, PSN by itself is essentially the majority of Xbox Live Gold with Silver combined. You also need to differentiate free games from F2P. Without PSN+ the Games for Gold system would not exist. 


Whether or not XBL can be considered "robbing" people is irrelevant. MS found a way to make hundreds of millions of dollars off of something that Sony was losing money on, and Sony realized just how dumb they were being by allowing it to continue. Sony can thank MS for showing them how to make money instead of losing it hand over fist.



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Lulz said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


LOL...Xbox Live Gold robs the average gamer who doesn't want online multiplayer from enjoying the free nature of online. The cannot access their non-Xbox Live related subscriptions nor anything. Even though Sony upgraded multiplayer to PSN Plus, PSN by itself is essentially the majority of Xbox Live Gold with Silver combined. You also need to differentiate free games from F2P. Without PSN+ the Games for Gold system would not exist. 


Whether or not XBL can be considered "robbing" people is irrelevant. MS found a way to make hundreds of millions of dollars off of something that Sony was losing money on, and Sony realized just how dumb they were being by allowing it to continue. Sony can thank MS for showing them how to make money instead of losing it hand over fist.


If Sony followed Microsoft's lead they would force consumers to pay for the lionshare of PSN and technically PSN+ would not exist.



FiliusDei said:
This thread should be locked. It's just ridiculous.


I do find it ironic that a banned user can do some much damage.  Just saying.



Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.

S.T.A.G.E. said:


If Sony followed Microsoft's lead they would force consumers to pay for the lionshare of PSN and technically PSN+ would not exist.


I honestly don't know what you're talking about. You leave me clueless. You're the only one who's mixing Xbox Live Silver and Gold as to explain your argument, which they're not, and so we sum it up like this: Silver is the free service, Gold is the paid service. PSN is the free service, PSN+ is the paid service.

 

Silver don't allow you to play online. PSN does.

 

But in Ps4's case, it doesn't, either. You have to resort to the paid service to play online. As you say, no one is forcing you into being PSN+, but you don't play online. Is that simple.



Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


No. You see...Sony hasn't forced yet people to pay for the lionshare of the online experience, therefore I am not embellishing a thing.


:/


No, they just cornered off the sector of the online that might demand payment. Really and truly, its only the multiplayer and gaming rentals and deep discounts that should be premium. As for cross chat and everything else can be used off of PSN+. :)



S.T.A.G.E. said:


No, they just cornered off the sector of the online that might demand payment. Really and truly, its only the multiplayer and gaming rentals and deep discounts that should be premium. As for cross chat and everything else can be used off of PSN+. :)


What are you talking about?