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areason said:
Yes but kinect is more important to microsoft then the one is.


This.



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No they don't.

And what makes everyone think MS would be mad about second place? The Wii U isn't exactly going to steam roll the XB1. The 360 was on second place for many many years and MS didn't seem upset about that.

Cutting $100 without getting rid of the Kinect will make them bleed money, and they seem pretty steadfast on not getting rid of the Kinect.



It's just that simple.

landguy1 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
Isnt that like suggesting that Sony needs to cut the price of the PS4 before launch because the Wii U has a huge price advantage over them?
I know most will comment back that the PS4 offers more, but when comparing the X1 to PS4 the X1 offers more in the box as well.
I am not sure how anyone can claim one needs a price cut but the other one doesn't.


Sony has superior tech for a similar price to the Wii U. They need to drop the Wii U's price to $299 and quick. Wii U poses no threat to the coming consoles. Nintendo cannot explain to the average consumer the disparity in graphics and power between the coming next gen consoles and the Wii U.


MS has superior tech int he box to PS4. Same difference dude. Also WIi U is being dropped to 299.99 so that puts the price difference the same between all 3. Suggesting one needs a price drop but not the other seems silly.

First point is true though we dont know how much

Second point is completely opinion with nothing to base it one

Third point doesnt even make sense. What disparity are you talking about? There are no PS4 or X1 games released at this point to even back up that claim

I will just dismiss you as bias and unable to look at things fairly. You obviously hate them and cant be asked to judge them with an open mind

Actually, no. The PS4 is the most powerful console on the market, Microsoft is scrambling to catch up to have some sort of parity. This is why the PS4 reveal was such a surprise and MS did not show off the Xbox until May.

What I am saying has a point, you just do not want to see it because you are biased. If you think someone sees a price tag on the Wii U and looks at a PS4 and thinks Wii U is even in its league, I am sorry, but you're living in a dream world, my friend.

Per the BOLD: For the core gamers, you are 100% correct.  The problem is that the core isn't the big part of the market, they are your first 6-12 months buyers.  The second tier group "regular gamers - COD/Battlefield/Halo" they probably will buy what their friends are buying and will know the difference in between the consoles, but will decide based on their $$$ and the media sway.  The last group are the "pure casuals", they buy what they think their kids want based on what the media tells them - the most popular.  Seeing as how about half of the consoles sold fall into the last group, Sony hasn't won anything yet.  Look at the wii, that's proof in itself that the public is easily swayed, and you never really know what they will fall for.


The 360 won the battle of word of mouth in the beginning, Sony closed the tie by filling replacing words with games. The PS4 will have word of mouth in the beginning now and it will have higher rated launch games, mark my words.



as i said here : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=167581&page=1#

its mainly a kinect issue, remove kinect and profit from a percieved $100 pricecut while not dropping the price on the console by a cent.



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Not arbitrary at all. 45 million consoles sold in America and counting. Xbox One could totally bomb everywhere else in the world and still sell 60 million consoles because of America alone. So yes...America. Its the most important market so I dont know what to tell you.



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Higher rated launch games? Forza 5 will be the highest rated launch exclusive.



iceboy151 said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
Isnt that like suggesting that Sony needs to cut the price of the PS4 before launch because the Wii U has a huge price advantage over them?
I know most will comment back that the PS4 offers more, but when comparing the X1 to PS4 the X1 offers more in the box as well.
I am not sure how anyone can claim one needs a price cut but the other one doesn't.


Uhhh, no. MS and Sony are competing for the same market while Nintendo is going for the casual. No matter how successful the Wii U is, that won't stop the X1 and PS4.

I actually wonder if MS is competing in the same market as Sony.  The way that MS is headed, they are going for the more broader appeal where devices like the Apple TV and Google stuff will be positioned.  In other words the millions of people who are willing to spend 500 dollars on a tablet.  Not sure if thats the best course of action but that seem to be MS direction.



All my friends are getting PS4 - 99% of the most popular games are multiplats and PS4 will be as good and likely better. If I got xone I'd have play online alone with strangers but I'll probably still get one 3-4 years from now when it's $300 just for Halo.



ganoncrotch said:
very good read, agree with a lot of it, it's not even like it's hard to figure out a way of doing it... have a launch model which doesn't have kinect and the headset in the box, sorted. Even drop the hdmi cable, sure it's just a dollar or 2 from the price to include it but who owns a hdtv and doesn't have a few of these sitting around spare?

Depends on the company goals.  Gamers mostly only look at the now and base their comments for today but a business needs a vision that stretches a lot longer.  For MS, Kinect is the X1 and what they have planned for the device is not going to be decided on day one sells.  In truth only fanboys bicker about pre-order numbers and who is selling the most per week.  The key for MS is to keep steady sells and maintain profits.  They need to separate the X1 from the PS4 and show the benefits of Kinect as a device worth the money.  If they cannot succeed in that they they will probably drop it from the device and move on but it appears to me MS success with the X1 is greatly tied with that device.  Come hell or high water they need to make the X1 as it is a success.

Sony took the risk with the blu-ray and it paid off sort of.  MS big risk is the Kinect 2.0.



The desire for both consoles to be identical is getting boring now, let them have something different instead of just the names.



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