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DJEVOLVE on 04 September 2013
OdinHades said:

I want it to be true. Just because it would be so funny to see Xbox Fans arguing about the importance of specs all of a sudden and PS fans talking about how it won't make a difference because of blah. I would be quoting old posts all day, just for the lulz.

Confirmation bias, is a mutha phunker.



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DJEVOLVE on 04 September 2013
Lulz said:
NYCrysis said:
So when this gets proven wrong as the 1.9ghz cpu clock will u guys eat crow and apologize to ethomaz or will u guys still go on with ur bs and still carry some hope that the xbone is still somehow through the magic of the clowdz more powerful than the ps4?


What's with your man-crush on Ethomaz? This is like the 3rd thread I've seen you name dropping him in. If you want his autograph or something just ask him. 



You can have him sign your PS4. That would be super cool....



Machiavellian on 04 September 2013
Runa216 said:
If this does prove to be true (doubtful but hopeful), I can only foresee issues. you can't change your hardware this late in the game and NOT come out of it with a tonne of hardware issues. Look at the Xbox 360, rushed to come out in 2005, ended up with the highest console failure rate of all time.

I do hope this is true, perhaps it;ll make the system only marginally less impressive than the PS4 instead of being a significant chunk weaker...but it has a long way to go before it's the 'better' console. and as long as price is a factor and the gamers of the world still deem the kinect a fad, the Xbone just plain will not be a viable purchase.

Of course, there's brand loyalty, and we all know Microsoft and Xbox are huge in america...so I'm sure this gen will do just fine.


Who said anythign about them changing the hardware, the rumor suggest that the hardware was alwasy there.  As one person mentioned, when talking about a speculation piece its good to actually read it first that way people will not be making statements covered by the article.

As to the PS4, there IMHO there really isn't anything impressive about it.  It appears to be a console that is not really pushing any thing if you are going by the components.  Sony has made some nice improvements to the GPU but besides from that, it really seem like a very safe design.



g911turbo on 04 September 2013
OdinHades said:

I want it to be true. Just because it would be so funny to see Xbox Fans arguing about the importance of specs all of a sudden and PS fans talking about how it won't make a difference because of blah. I would be quoting old posts all day, just for the lulz.


While I'm sure this would provide entertainment, at the end of the day specs really don't matter (in terms of sales of course).  Wii was proof of that.

As it is now, PS4 appears marginally more powerful.  If the rumors are 100% true, then Xbox One would be marginally more powerful.  Is it really going to change anyone's mind either way?  You guys have certain games you like, and will follow the games.  Why is that so hard to admit?

Anyway, I can see the truth ending up somewhere in the middle.  With PS4 being more powerful, but Xbox One bridging the gap slightly with some of its co-processors.  I haven't read into too much on the details, but hard processors next to a GPU can really help to offload what would otherwise need to be done purely in SW.

For example, the generation before Intel i-core processors did not have h.264 hard block decoders built in.  Watching a high resolution, high bitrate, AVC (h.264) movie could easily make even a fast processor choke.  Completely off topic... a little disappointed that none of the consoles could have h.265 built in (that I have seen).



tres on 04 September 2013
OdinHades said:

I want it to be true. Just because it would be so funny to see Xbox Fans arguing about the importance of specs all of a sudden and PS fans talking about how it won't make a difference because of blah. I would be quoting old posts all day, just for the lulz.

or it could just go.  our specs are better now stfu.  then we start the ignorance of my exclusive are better than your exclusive b.s. for another 8 years



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Darth Tigris on 04 September 2013

So has anyone asked anyone at MS if there is an NDA from AMD that they are honoring right now? Isn't that an easy way acknowledge that SOMETHING would be revealed concerning the GPU when it has expired without violating it?



ethomaz on 04 September 2013

It is the same source lol



Runa216 on 04 September 2013
Machiavellian said:
Runa216 said:
If this does prove to be true (doubtful but hopeful), I can only foresee issues. you can't change your hardware this late in the game and NOT come out of it with a tonne of hardware issues. Look at the Xbox 360, rushed to come out in 2005, ended up with the highest console failure rate of all time.

I do hope this is true, perhaps it;ll make the system only marginally less impressive than the PS4 instead of being a significant chunk weaker...but it has a long way to go before it's the 'better' console. and as long as price is a factor and the gamers of the world still deem the kinect a fad, the Xbone just plain will not be a viable purchase.

Of course, there's brand loyalty, and we all know Microsoft and Xbox are huge in america...so I'm sure this gen will do just fine.


Who said anythign about them changing the hardware, the rumor suggest that the hardware was alwasy there.  As one person mentioned, when talking about a speculation piece its good to actually read it first that way people will not be making statements covered by the article.

As to the PS4, there IMHO there really isn't anything impressive about it.  It appears to be a console that is not really pushing any thing if you are going by the components.  Sony has made some nice improvements to the GPU but besides from that, it really seem like a very safe design.

They would have to be absolutely, colosally stupid to NOT push every little advantage their system had.   Either this is not true, it was a late-game change, or Microsoft is stupid.  None appear to be likely. 



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Machiavellian on 04 September 2013
Darth Tigris said:
So has anyone asked anyone at MS if there is an NDA from AMD that they are honoring right now? Isn't that an easy way acknowledge that SOMETHING would be revealed concerning the GPU when it has expired without violating it?

MS would only do what they always do "We do not comment on Rumors etc.".  So far no one has asked but it probably will happen at some point.



Machiavellian on 04 September 2013
Runa216 said:
Machiavellian said:
Runa216 said:
If this does prove to be true (doubtful but hopeful), I can only foresee issues. you can't change your hardware this late in the game and NOT come out of it with a tonne of hardware issues. Look at the Xbox 360, rushed to come out in 2005, ended up with the highest console failure rate of all time.

I do hope this is true, perhaps it;ll make the system only marginally less impressive than the PS4 instead of being a significant chunk weaker...but it has a long way to go before it's the 'better' console. and as long as price is a factor and the gamers of the world still deem the kinect a fad, the Xbone just plain will not be a viable purchase.

Of course, there's brand loyalty, and we all know Microsoft and Xbox are huge in america...so I'm sure this gen will do just fine.


Who said anythign about them changing the hardware, the rumor suggest that the hardware was alwasy there.  As one person mentioned, when talking about a speculation piece its good to actually read it first that way people will not be making statements covered by the article.

As to the PS4, there IMHO there really isn't anything impressive about it.  It appears to be a console that is not really pushing any thing if you are going by the components.  Sony has made some nice improvements to the GPU but besides from that, it really seem like a very safe design.

They would have to be absolutely, colosally stupid to NOT push every little advantage their system had.   Either this is not true, it was a late-game change, or Microsoft is stupid.  None appear to be likely. 

You can count out late change.  Either the chip was there from the beginning but MS cannot talk about it until and NDA is lifted or it was never there and this is one of many rumors that have floated around the net.

If there is an NDA, MS cannot and will not go against it because it would be a breach of contract with the parties involved and there could be stiff penealty.  second, MS use NDAs a lot and breaching others NDAs is a big no no.