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I know there are many Syria threads already but this one has more to do with Iran.  Is the real goal to send a message to Iran about their nuclear program or is it really about chemical weapons?

An attack will send a clear message to Iran that when we say all options on the table we mean it.  Giving strength to the threat of military action.  While not attacking will make the US look like we are bluffing.

or is this really about Syria crossing the red line of using chemical weapons?   Maybe a mix of both.

Also if it is about Iran will it work to strengthen the threat or only strengthen their resolve to get a nuke.  

 

  currently taking a non proliferation class and have to write a a paper.



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Yes. We will send a small contingency force.

Why can't wars ever be somewhere nice? I would hate to rejoin and have to go to some hot toilet once again.

Not to be rude to these countries, but they really are horrible places to live.



On topic. Isn't Obama pushing congress about it right now?

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spurgeonryan said:
Yes. We will send a small contingency force.

Why can't wars ever be somewhere nice? I would hate to rejoin and have to go to some hot toilet once again.

Not to be rude to these countries, but they really are horrible places to live.



On topic. Isn't Obama pushing congress about it right now?


Yeah, I'm very impressed he went to congress.  Most people thought he was going to attack without doing so.  Something he campaigned against doing.     I don't think we will see any boots on the ground.



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Nothing big. We really have no interest in this country do we? There will be something, possibly part of NATO or something, although I never saw NATO anywhere when I was even in Kuwait.

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iran got the message. which is: if the usa can rally support to attack you we will. so you better start doing business with the western banks. Our banks will have a global monopoly on money (a comodity) even if we go bankrupt.


chemical weapons? sounds like george w bush speak.


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Just saw this.

 

Here is the text of draft legislation delivered by President Barack Obama on Saturday to the speaker of the House and president of the Senate regarding authorization for the use of the U.S. armed forces in connection with the conflict in Syria.

(CNN) -- Whereas, on August 21, 2013, the Syrian government carried out a chemical weapons attack in the suburbs of Damascus, Syria, killing more than 1,000 innocent Syrians;

Whereas these flagrant actions were in violation of international norms and the laws of war;

Whereas the United States and 188 other countries comprising 98 percent of the world's population are parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention, which prohibits the development, production, acquisition, stockpiling or use of chemical weapons;

Whereas, in the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2003, Congress found that Syria's acquisition of weapons of mass destruction threatens the security of the Middle East and the national security interests of the United States;

Whereas the United Nations Security Council, in Resolution 1540 (2004), affirmed that the proliferation of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons constitutes a threat to international peace and security;

Whereas, the objective of the United States' use of military force in connection with this authorization should be to deter, disrupt, prevent, and degrade the potential for, future uses of chemical weapons or other weapons of mass destruction;

Whereas, the conflict in Syria will only be resolved through a negotiated political settlement, and Congress calls on all parties to the conflict in Syria to participate urgently and constructively in the Geneva process; and

Whereas, unified action by the legislative and executive branches will send a clear signal of American resolve.

SEC. ___ AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES

(a) Authorization. -- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in connection with the use of chemical weapons or other weapons of mass destruction in the conflict in Syria in order to --

(1) prevent or deter the use or proliferation (including the transfer to terrorist groups or other state or non-state actors), within, to or from Syria, of any weapons of mass destruction, including chemical or biological weapons or components of or materials used in such weapons; or

(2) protect the United States and its allies and partners against the threat posed by such weapons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements. --

(1) Specific Statutory Authorization. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) Applicability of other requirements. -- Nothing in this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.



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spurgeonryan said:
Yes. We will send a small contingency force.

Why can't wars ever be somewhere nice? I would hate to rejoin and have to go to some hot toilet once again.

Not to be rude to these countries, but they really are horrible places to live.



On topic. Isn't Obama pushing congress about it right now?


Yeah, I'm very impressed he went to congress.  Most people thought he was going to attack without doing so.  Something he campaigned against doing.     I don't think we will see any boots on the ground.

I'm pretty sure the Constitution requires Congress' approval before going to war. 



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If the attack goes forward, it'll be more about sending messages to Russia/China than Iran.

SamuelRSmith said:
If the attack goes forward, it'll be more about sending messages to Russia/China than Iran.

What message are we sending to China and Russia?



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China and Russia are Syrian allies.

 

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