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Seems that way now, but 2/3 consoles aren't even out yet. Best to wait and see... we'll have a better, but not complete, idea after the Holidays.



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Sony is always set to win but competition is stronger than ever.



Predicting a winner now before the other two consoles are even out, is rather silly.

However, discounting Nintendo and assuming it's "Sony vs. MS" is also rather silly. MS has little chance, in my estimation, to overcome their own BS this gen and "win it all" in sales figures. They have lost too much goodwill with fans because of the "One's" original situation, which they're now scrambling desperately to reverse one, which very well may delay console launch. They're not even going to launch right away in various areas around the globe because of their online nonsense. Some of their exclusives may look good, but I'm willing to bet that they aren't as strong as Sony or Nintendo's exclusives. A lot of people were seriously turned off by their BS, and I don't honestly think many of those are going to come crawling back "Because Halo".

So if you ask me, it's between Sony and Nintendo. And again, it's far too early to tell. Nintendo seriously stumbled this year, but that doesn't imply there's no time/chance for them to recover. PS4 is more than likely going to get more 3rd party games than Wii U (again), but that doesn't mean the 3rd party situation won't improve once more, as Wii U sales themselves improve. The notion that all is lost for Nintendo this gen, is just as premature as the notion that "Sony has pretty much already won".

Perception is everything, and perception can also change in an instant. I'm quite sure there were probably many in here claiming PS3's "doom" within it's first year or two, because it was selling slowly, and as the popular meme went "It had no games" (even though it obviously did). Yet look how it turned out. Naturally, the situation is different right now for Nintendo, but many third party publishers have expressed that their support for the system will pick up again once they see more sales (and thus more potential customers).

The coming months are going to be integral for the Wii U. October alone is going to be huge, with Wind Waker HD (with an alleged WWHD console bundle, which should really help), along with Skylanders, Sonic: Lost World, Batman: Arkham Origins, Assassin's Creed IV, and Wii Party U. That's quite the flood of games after such a long drought. September will also bring some help in the form of Rayman, Wonderful 101, and Scribblenauts. November brings COD: Ghosts, Watch_Dogs, Mario & Sonic Olymics, and DKC. And of course December will have arguably the two biggest potential sellers, Mario 3D World and Wii Fit U. Not to mention the fact that somewhere around 20+ new eShop titles are supposed to be available by the end of the year.

So basically, the Wii U will start getting a hell of a lot more attractive to potential buyers, close to PS4's own launch. Xbox One is supposed to also launch in November, but there are also rumors that could be pushed back, so who knows at this point. PS4's launch is going to be a hot holiday issue, for sure, and I think it's launch will have more success than PS3's did, because of the price, for sure. As for which system will have more 2013 sales by the end of the year, Wii U or PS4? Who knows. But I have a good feeling that Wii U's sales will pick up nicely just in time for the holidays. A Zelda bundle on store-shelves will certainly help, and while I know they don't want to (and don't blame them), a $50 price drop would almost ensure that the Wii U does great in late 2013.

But priced as is, I still think it can good well, the real question will be maintaining momentum this time, and having a much steadier release slate for 2014 onward. For all the talk of the console being a flop, the Wii U sold just over 3 million units from launch through the end of December 2012. That's pretty damn good for less than a month and a half. Will PS4 sell 3 million in the same amount of time? We'll obviously have to wait and see on that one. But the one thing I think it does indicate, is that there was indeed initial excitement and enthusiasm for Nintendo's new system....it just started dying off when it became increasingly clear that barely anything else was coming out for the system until late Summer. Horrible circumstance for Nintendo to allow to happen, but I still have faith they can turn things around.

It'll certainly be interesting to watch unfold, that's for sure.



DevilRising said:

Predicting a winner now before the other two consoles are even out, is rather silly.

However, discounting Nintendo and assuming it's "Sony vs. MS" is also rather silly. MS has little chance, in my estimation, to overcome their own BS this gen and "win it all" in sales figures. They have lost too much goodwill with fans because of the "One's" original situation, which they're now scrambling desperately to reverse one, which very well may delay console launch. They're not even going to launch right away in various areas around the globe because of their online nonsense. Some of their exclusives may look good, but I'm willing to bet that they aren't as strong as Sony or Nintendo's exclusives. A lot of people were seriously turned off by their BS, and I don't honestly think many of those are going to come crawling back "Because Halo".

So if you ask me, it's between Sony and Nintendo. And again, it's far too early to tell. Nintendo seriously stumbled this year, but that doesn't imply there's no time/chance for them to recover. PS4 is more than likely going to get more 3rd party games than Wii U (again), but that doesn't mean the 3rd party situation won't improve once more, as Wii U sales themselves improve. The notion that all is lost for Nintendo this gen, is just as premature as the notion that "Sony has pretty much already won".

Perception is everything, and perception can also change in an instant. I'm quite sure there were probably many in here claiming PS3's "doom" within it's first year or two, because it was selling slowly, and as the popular meme went "It had no games" (even though it obviously did). Yet look how it turned out. Naturally, the situation is different right now for Nintendo, but many third party publishers have expressed that their support for the system will pick up again once they see more sales (and thus more potential customers).

The coming months are going to be integral for the Wii U. October alone is going to be huge, with Wind Waker HD (with an alleged WWHD console bundle, which should really help), along with Skylanders, Sonic: Lost World, Batman: Arkham Origins, Assassin's Creed IV, and Wii Party U. That's quite the flood of games after such a long drought. September will also bring some help in the form of Rayman, Wonderful 101, and Scribblenauts. November brings COD: Ghosts, Watch_Dogs, Mario & Sonic Olymics, and DKC. And of course December will have arguably the two biggest potential sellers, Mario 3D World and Wii Fit U. Not to mention the fact that somewhere around 20+ new eShop titles are supposed to be available by the end of the year.

So basically, the Wii U will start getting a hell of a lot more attractive to potential buyers, close to PS4's own launch. Xbox One is supposed to also launch in November, but there are also rumors that could be pushed back, so who knows at this point. PS4's launch is going to be a hot holiday issue, for sure, and I think it's launch will have more success than PS3's did, because of the price, for sure. As for which system will have more 2013 sales by the end of the year, Wii U or PS4? Who knows. But I have a good feeling that Wii U's sales will pick up nicely just in time for the holidays. A Zelda bundle on store-shelves will certainly help, and while I know they don't want to (and don't blame them), a $50 price drop would almost ensure that the Wii U does great in late 2013.

But priced as is, I still think it can good well, the real question will be maintaining momentum this time, and having a much steadier release slate for 2014 onward. For all the talk of the console being a flop, the Wii U sold just over 3 million units from launch through the end of December 2012. That's pretty damn good for less than a month and a half. Will PS4 sell 3 million in the same amount of time? We'll obviously have to wait and see on that one. But the one thing I think it does indicate, is that there was indeed initial excitement and enthusiasm for Nintendo's new system....it just started dying off when it became increasingly clear that barely anything else was coming out for the system until late Summer. Horrible circumstance for Nintendo to allow to happen, but I still have faith they can turn things around.

It'll certainly be interesting to watch unfold, that's for sure.

I'm just seeing zero signs that the Wii U is any kind of disruptive product at all. Mario Kart/Smash Bros. don't really scare Sony/MS, it's unpredictable Nintendo that scares them, but Nintendo doesn't have a disruptive controller this time around. Without disruption the whole "Wii" brand is worthless. It's the Jackson 5 without Michael Jackson.

With the Wii U just being a standard game console that primarily relies on Nintendo IP ... that a much easier thing for Sony to compete against especially since it's not even very cheap. From Sony's POV, Nintendo's made it very easy for them with the Wii U.



You can't count Nintendo! MS and Sony are competing for the same crowd while Nintendo is going for another. No matter how much the Wii U sales, that's not going to stop how much these consoles sale, just like this gen. I'm pretty sure they don't care about selling the most units, they just want to be able to make money. If they're making money yearly, they're happy.



 

                          

 

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looks likely now but i'm sure people thought the same about PS3. Although, the price and launch date are in PS4's favour. If Xbox 360 couldn't maintain a years lead then if X1 happened to released a few weeks early it would make no difference.



Xbox One, PS4 and Switch (+ Many Retro Consoles)

'When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called the people's stick'- Mikhail Bakunin

Prediction: Switch will sell better than Wii U Lifetime Sales by Jan 1st 2018

The PS4 is in a great position right now and no one can denie that.

Wii U - Struggling to find games and being at the mercy of 3rd parties avoiding it because of the sales, will this change once the big titles hit and sales pick up? If so then by all means Nintendo could very well give the PS4 a grand battle.

Xbox One - Has alienated its fanbase and left a bad taste in the overall gamer's mouth. Could this lead them down a dark and disastrous road? Many believe so because like we all know a gamer never forgets and knows if they tried it once they will try it again.

PS4 - Has seemly done everything correctly in the eyes of most gamers with it's launch setup. Great games, a great price, a better online then last generation and support every from all directions. Can anything throw a wrench into their path?



Odds are certainly in Sony's favour.

We saw how well they could do when they fucked EVERYTHING up and the competition did EVERYTHING right... So its gonna be fun to see it the opposite way around.



                            

I only know gamers will win in the next gen for sure.



iceboy151 said:
You can't count Nintendo! MS and Sony are competing for the same crowd while Nintendo is going for another. No matter how much the Wii U sales, that's not going to stop how much these consoles sales, just like this gen. I'm pretty sure they don't care about selling the most units, they just want to be able to make money. If they're making money yearly, they're happy.

Unfortunately the "crowd" Nintendo is counting on to augment their usual core fans are casuals and they've gone tablet/smartphone. A $350 console with $60 games is never going to fly now that casuals are getting their gaming itch scratched by $1 games that they can download any time 24/7.

It's kind of a fight that Sony doesn't even have to deal with now, that crowd has a shiny new toy and have convienantly moved away from consoles entirely.

Part and parcel why Sony was probably very smart to not chase after this audience and making the PS4 more expensive by force feeding some kind of camera/motion gaming/other controller gimmick into the box.