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So the problems or issues of 1 Dev means a console and/or gen is weak and/or doomed??? 

Seriously, people need to stop with the assumptions that because Dice 's product (not yet finished or released) isn't so hot right now that it means the something or anything about the Ps4. Killzone isn't having this issue! Drive Club isn't having this issue. And what we've seen of Infamous, a game 6+ months from release, isn't having this issue. Seems to be Dice, not Sony

Same can be said with Dead Rising 3 on Xbox One. How the Dice Ps4 BF4 story got so much "ZOMG the hardware isn't powerful" traction and this didn't is beyond me. So Capcom is having issues reach or locking 30 FPS for Dead Rising 3 and they are working with Microsoft and the power of teh cloud to reach that goal... So Xbox One hardware weak comfirmed?

Of course not. Forza seems to be doing just fine as far as I can tell. And I will not assume Capcoms problems mean anything about the Xbox One. 



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depends on the developer and type of game.
GT5 almost did full 1080p and went upto 60fps on the PS3.
GT6 might do 4k =P



I see people being dissapointed, not confident etc. about the power of the next generation consoles and it most of the time is about the PS4. I wonder where Wii U fits in this conversation?



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

10 years? PC is already ahead like no tomorrow... You can spend $1000 and have a PC better than the Ps4... I think 6-7 years at best



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
10 years? PC is already ahead like no tomorrow... You can spend $1000 and have a PC better than the Ps4... I think 6-7 years at best


You can spend $600 more and have a machine that is graphically more powerful? Are you sure?



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IsawYoshi said:
I'm taking that one from the video. He said so, and I've never really experienced him to just make up stuff. However, Microsoft also sid that they wanted to sell 1 billion Xbox ones, and I doubt that means we'll have a 6-7 year console gen.

 

And, the the whole pc from 2008 thing is also from the video, as I trust him enough to believe that what he says is the truth. If it isn't, then I'm sorry :p

Microsoft didn't say that. That's a misconception people have spread quite a lot.

Microsoft's Yusuf Mehdi actually said:

"Every generation, as you've probably heard, has grown approximately 30 percent," Mehdi said. "So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That's if it's a game console, over the next decade."

"We think you can go broader than a game console, that's our aim, and you can go from 400 million to potentially upwards of a billion units," he added. 


He's talking about the whole console market, which includes Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and most likely all the others like Ouya and the likes. Not just the XBox brand.



Hynad said:
IsawYoshi said:
I'm taking that one from the video. He said so, and I've never really experienced him to just make up stuff. However, Microsoft also sid that they wanted to sell 1 billion Xbox ones, and I doubt that means we'll have a 6-7 year console gen.

 

And, the the whole pc from 2008 thing is also from the video, as I trust him enough to believe that what he says is the truth. If it isn't, then I'm sorry :p

Microsoft didn't say that. That's a misconception people have spread quite a lot.

Microsoft's Yusuf Mehdi actually said:

"Every generation, as you've probably heard, has grown approximately 30 percent," Mehdi said. "So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That's if it's a game console, over the next decade."

"We think you can go broader than a game console, that's our aim, and you can go from 400 million to potentially upwards of a billion units," he added. 


He's talking about the whole console market, which includes Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and most likely all the others like Ouya and the likes. Not just the XBox brand.

He is talking about making the Xbox more than just a games console.  More like a DVD player or Bluray player, something that almost everyone has.



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the-pi-guy said:
theRepublic said:

He is talking about making the Xbox more than just a games console.  More like a DVD player or Bluray player, something that almost everyone has.

It's mostly about this part, he brings up 300 million as the total sales of this gen, the 400 million is the expected expansion of that. Then adds we could take that 400 million up to 1 billion.  Meaning PS4 + Xbox One + Wii U = 1 billion sales.  

He was correcting the point, because someone else thinks that comment means 10 year cycle.  

"Every generation, as you've probably heard, has grown approximately 30 percent," Mehdi said. "So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That's if it's a game console, over the next decade."

"We think you can go broader than a game console, that's our aim, and you can go from 400 million to potentially upwards of a billion units," he added. "That's how we're thinking of the Xbox opportunity as we go forward."

He is talking about pushing the Xbox brand out beyond the limits of a game console to sell to a much larger group of people.  He doesn't say anything about Sony and Nintendo also becoming something more than a game console.  In fact, he would prefer that Sony and Nintendo would stay with "just a game console" so that they could dominate this theoretical untapped 600 million unit market.  But in the end, it is all just a bunch of marketing BS anyway.

The only real truth of this statement is that Microsoft does not view the Xbox One as a game console.  They view it as some sort of complete family room media hub that everyone should own regardless of whether or not they play games.



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the-pi-guy said:
theRepublic said:
the-pi-guy said:

It's mostly about this part, he brings up 300 million as the total sales of this gen, the 400 million is the expected expansion of that. Then adds we could take that 400 million up to 1 billion.  Meaning PS4 + Xbox One + Wii U = 1 billion sales.  

He was correcting the point, because someone else thinks that comment means 10 year cycle.  

"Every generation, as you've probably heard, has grown approximately 30 percent," Mehdi said. "So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That's if it's a game console, over the next decade."

"We think you can go broader than a game console, that's our aim, and you can go from 400 million to potentially upwards of a billion units," he added. "That's how we're thinking of the Xbox opportunity as we go forward."

He is talking about pushing the Xbox brand out beyond the limits of a game console to sell to a much larger group of people.  He doesn't say anything about Sony and Nintendo also becoming something more than a game console.  In fact, he would prefer that Sony and Nintendo would stay with "just a game console" so that they could dominate this theoretical untapped 600 million unit market.  But in the end, it is all just a bunch of marketing BS anyway.

The only real truth of this statement is that Microsoft does not view the Xbox One as a game console.  They view it as some sort of complete family room media hub that everyone should own regardless of whether or not they play games.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but the point is that wasn't why he brought it up.

 

IsawYoshi said this.

Microsoft also sid that they wanted to sell 1 billion Xbox ones, and I doubt that means we'll have a 6-7 year console gen.

 So Hynad said this.

He's talking about the whole console market, which includes Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and most likely all the others like Ouya and the likes. Not just the XBox brand.

So it doesn't disagree with what you said, you just might be missing the point of why he said it.  

He is saying that means a 10 year cycle, but Hynad said they aren't expecting to sell a billion Xbox Ones.  

It is not really a "misconception" as Hynad said.  That particular statement is still saying that they want to sell 600+ million Xboxes.

I agree it has nothing to do with the length of the generation.



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the-pi-guy said:
theRepublic said:

It is not really a "misconception" as Hynad said.  That particular statement is still saying that they want to sell 600+ million Xboxes.

I agree it has nothing to do with the length of the generation.

The misconception part is that people think that MS said they want to sell 1 billion Xbox Ones.  As you and I both know: 600+ million != 1 billion. 
They think that 1 billion systems could be sold, not Xbox Ones.  

They are still taking about selling 8x as many of their units as last gen.  People pretty much got the point.  It is not 13x, but it is still a massive jump.



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