People complain that sony listen and microsoft dont. Well microsoft did listen. But sony hasnt listened me and put in the non gaming functions I want. So does that make sony the bad guy now? Because I wont buy ps4 without those othef changes?

I didnt say anything about trolling competitors mistakes being okay.

But anyways you dont seem to be any good at this or interested so il leave you be.

That's seriously the "dig" that Sony took at Microsoft.......I think this is being blown out of proportion.

 You have a hard time figuring out that everybody has opinions and that I'd prefer to not argue for pages about an opinion that you will not change. "You dont seem to be any good at this" was not needed.  

Opinions = facts. here is your argument or debate

He's a 100% right, I never understood "dur hur! They're listening to their customers! How desperate" line of thinking. I wish Nintendo was more like that.

I said nothing about trolling being a good thing. You are distorting what i was saying.

When i said you are not good at this, i didnt mean that as an insult. You genuinely dont seem to understand how a debate goes. Yet here you are in a thread arguing without actually saying anything. You just keep repeating "your opion does not equal fact" Not once have i said my opinion equals fact. Ive just pointed out that your opinions and explanations are flawed. And make no mistake your opinion can and will be wrong many times. Dont believe the hype about opinions being safe from criticism. Yet you have not addressed any of the points i raised, you havent even tried.

Heres a suggestion when you get into a situation like this again. If you saying a statement is childish and unprofessional how about actually referencing what was said? Breaking down the words if you must and explain what about the statement was unprofessional or childish. Perhaps refer to the meaning of unprofessional or childish if you must. If you do that, in this case, and actual take some time to think about it you might find new opinions that can actually be logically explained. This is why i called you bias. Because you fail to back up your opinion with logic.

You should have learnt this in english comprehension classes or something.

Also, you asked me to leave you alone, then when i do...you just keep replying. I dont understand that kind of behaviour.

Yeah thats the "dig"....which everybody seems to be ignoring. Very unprofessional and childish!

This is the problem with 2010 posters all talk no substance.

Really? You think there is some kind of moral behavior in businsess in regards to facing the competition? People that take it this way take companies way to personally and seriously. It is just internet drama getting mad because one company was a meanie name caller.

I've just pointed out that your opinions and explanation sounds like you are stating it as a fact to me ;)

What am i argueing here?  I said I respect your opinion but stop trying to convince me they are right.  That isnt me arguing.  That is me saying hey, respect what I said and leave me alone about it.  I told you why i thought what i did and you deserve no other explanation out of me.  If you disagree then ok I respect that but once again do not try and convince me otherwise.

You want to debate with me then do it on a topic that isnt purely based around different opinions.