Why aren´t they showing more of this feature!? That´s awesome if it works :)! Until I see it in action I will be reserved though, still bying the X1 :).
Mmmfishtacos said:
Guess you don't have and S4. Works really well. Tv guide works good too. Find the show, press it and off it goes. I can voice serch for shows too. |
lol in my household I have lumia 920 personally and galaxy note 2 for work and S4 for the wife (and she wants a WP now btw) parents and sister have iphone 5s..... there is nothing practical about using them as remote for any of my device not even my samsung smart TV.... none....a real old school remote is better and an harmony just blows them all... and I'm not talking about just switching channel.....
so far I haven't seen any new tech beside kinect for how I want to use my devices.... smartphones are so over rated and all reality a merely overpriced grown up toys for the most part....
the-pi-guy said:
It barely enhances the experience, nothing that can't be done already in a different way. I'm not even looking at it as something that doesn't enhance my vision of core gaming, I'm looking at something that realistically barely enhances my media experience. |
me and most of the people that I know that are home theatre enthusiaste have spent more money over a decade on remotes IR blaster tech and all than an XB1 cost..... so yeah it is a big deal for that small demographic.... that and CEC HDMI... is a big deal.... it could mean hundreds of dollars saved over several years....
oh ok... well it won't be a toy.... but already this gen the 360 has massive success with media center HTPC enthusiast compared to PS3... simply because of the media center extender making the 360 an excellent cable box tuner extender.... I know a tone of people on forums that bought more than 5 XB360 just because of that once the price was low enough.... instead of renting boxes for several rooms and all...
so I could see this turning into a major point for those same people down the line once it will be around 199... all the non gaming features of XB1 are one of the biggest reason I'm convinced it will have very long legs among entertainment nerds.....
the-pi-guy said:
That's great and all, but you missed my point. It's a convenience, it's not something that a PS4 needs to have. It's no reason to write posts like Multimedialover wrote in any way. He brought up PS4 and said that they don't have multimedia features and said that it's going to be called a toy just because of that. I'm mostly talking about the multimedia features. That's how that started. |
I'm pretty sure the PS4 will have HDMI-CEC seeing as the PS3 since the first slim has had it. (and works brilliantly too!!)
OT: Nice features, this is where I think Kinect is really going to excel!
disolitude said:
Yeah... People didn't need to put a working toilet in their houses either, since shitting in a bucket works just fine. |
LOL!! 
| endimion said: oh ok... well it won't be a toy.... but already this gen the 360 has massive success with media center HTPC enthusiast compared to PS3... simply because of the media center extender making the 360 an excellent cable box tuner extender.... I know a tone of people on forums that bought more than 5 XB360 just because of that once the price was low enough.... instead of renting boxes for several rooms and all... so I could see this turning into a major point for those same people down the line once it will be around 199... all the non gaming features of XB1 are one of the biggest reason I'm convinced it will have very long legs among entertainment nerds..... |
The original Xbox spawned an actual independent development team around this home theater, with XMBC. The popularity of it is what drove Microsoft to develop the features for the Xbox 360.
| landguy1 said: What you are saying is exactly my point. Most of the M$/XBOXOne haters seem to only acknowledge features that they want for themselves(somewhat understandable), but find a way to totally dismiss any feature that doesn't enhance their vision of core gaming. The features that I mention do only directly impact a smaller portion of the buyers TODAY. The Home Theatre area is an exploding market and will impact system sales and uses much more every year going forward. |
Most haters believe one of several things, not dismissing 'features'.
1.) It's a video game system first and foremost. It looks to be inferior in a multitude of ways in that regard currently.
2.) Games, for the said video game system. Sure, a lot has been made of the Xbox One's launch lineup, yet the real concern with Microsoft is their long-term game lineup. They've proven time and time again that they don't fully support their systems. (When is the last non-sequel, AAA, fantastic game the Xbox 360 saw? How early did the original Xbox get pulled off the shelves?)
3.) Hardware reliability. I don't know how anyone could with a straight face completely trust Microsoft in manufacturing electronics at this point. Last generation, they were like first generation car company (KIAs). They were that bad. Now you want to use their hardware for every function in your living room and expect it to handle the load? I think many are skeptical.
4.) For all of the 'Multimedia' features that the Xbox One has, how many of those do you truly believe will be 'exclusive' experiences that can't be done elsewhere? Truly, not many. PS4 will have plenty of multimedia features, after all they manufacture all sorts of entertainment devices.
5.) Many people aren't really that interested in 'voice chatting' their TV. I can't imagine a significant percentage of people age 30+ trying to relax after work that want to sit there and yell/make gestures at their TV all night. Setting aside the fact that plenty of people have some concern over their privacy given how Microsoft so willingly provided information and access to the government in the past.
6.) Price. Self explanatory.
Rpruett said:
1.) It's a video game system first and foremost. It looks to be inferior in a multitude of ways in that regard currently. 2.) Games, for the said video game system. Sure, a lot has been made of the Xbox One's launch lineup, yet the real concern with Microsoft is their long-term game lineup. They've proven time and time again that they don't fully support their systems. (When is the last non-sequel, AAA, fantastic game the Xbox 360 saw? How early did the original Xbox get pulled off the shelves?) 3.) Hardware reliability. I don't know how anyone could with a straight face completely trust Microsoft in manufacturing electronics at this point. Last generation, they were like first generation car company (KIAs). They were that bad. Now you want to use their hardware for every function in your living room and expect it to handle the load? I think many are skeptical. 4.) For all of the 'Multimedia' features that the Xbox One has, how many of those do you truly believe will be 'exclusive' experiences that can't be done elsewhere? Truly, not many. PS4 will have plenty of multimedia features, after all they manufacture all sorts of entertainment devices. 5.) Many people aren't really that interested in 'voice chatting' their TV. I can't imagine a significant percentage of people age 30+ trying to relax after work that want to sit there and yell/make gestures at their TV all night. Setting aside the fact that plenty of people have some concern over their privacy given how Microsoft so willingly provided information and access to the government in the past. 6.) Price. Self explanatory. |
You're basically putting together a synopsis of all arguments that non-Xbox users use to put down Microsofts gaming console.
1. The ways in which Xbox One is inferior to PS4 makes PS2 was also then inferior to the original Xbox. Even more so as Xbox was much more powerful than PS2... We all know consoles are beyond just playing videogames... when even the WiiU is touting multimedia features and apps you know the party is over. Both consoles should plenty powerful to run games equally for the forseeable future.
2.See point 6.
3. My Zune HD, Surface RT, Xbox 1 and Microsoft made ergonomuc keyboard say otherwise. Yes they fucked jup with the original Xbox 360...I don't see this lightning striking twice though.
4. Sony has a track record of providing "me too" console features once their competitors make them available first. Why would I want to wait and see if they are deciding to implement stuff Xbox is offering and advertising on day 1?
5. Doesn't look like you've seen any new Kinect tech demos. There is no yelling or violent gestures needed to make it work. Its looks quite relaxing and even with Kinect 1, voice gestures work quite well.
6. People like cheap sure. But they also like features they will use and enjoy. Neither of these machines are cheap and if one is making a choice to spend 400 or 500 dollars, they are doing it because of what the console is going to offer now... Not what its going to offer in 4 years when its available for 199 new and 130 used. Microsoft not supporting their platform argument is dubious at best as they supported it plenty, but maybe not as much as PS3 in the last few years. What matters is that they have the games and features at launch and a massive lineup of upcoming games in the near future. They also have a massive ecosystem (windows, Skydrive, mcirosoft cloud, smartglass) that gamers can count on for enhanced experiences. Sony and PS4 apparently have more hardware power and promises to use this hardware power in games 4 years down the line...I think I will wait and see on that one and if indeed it is true, and future games are much better on PS4, I will gladly buy a PS4 for 150 bucks used in 2017.
Rpruett said:
1.) It's a video game system first and foremost. It looks to be inferior in a multitude of ways in that regard currently. 2.) Games, for the said video game system. Sure, a lot has been made of the Xbox One's launch lineup, yet the real concern with Microsoft is their long-term game lineup. They've proven time and time again that they don't fully support their systems. (When is the last non-sequel, AAA, fantastic game the Xbox 360 saw? How early did the original Xbox get pulled off the shelves?) 3.) Hardware reliability. I don't know how anyone could with a straight face completely trust Microsoft in manufacturing electronics at this point. Last generation, they were like first generation car company (KIAs). They were that bad. Now you want to use their hardware for every function in your living room and expect it to handle the load? I think many are skeptical. 4.) For all of the 'Multimedia' features that the Xbox One has, how many of those do you truly believe will be 'exclusive' experiences that can't be done elsewhere? Truly, not many. PS4 will have plenty of multimedia features, after all they manufacture all sorts of entertainment devices. 5.) Many people aren't really that interested in 'voice chatting' their TV. I can't imagine a significant percentage of people age 30+ trying to relax after work that want to sit there and yell/make gestures at their TV all night. Setting aside the fact that plenty of people have some concern over their privacy given how Microsoft so willingly provided information and access to the government in the past. 6.) Price. Self explanatory. |
Almost all of your points are valid in some way. I didn't say anything about them and don't discount them. You made my point of the post that you quoted, as most of your responses have nothing to do with the capabilities of this topic.
# 3 Can't argue that, but M$ has made many announcements regarding the steps they have taken to ensure that the XBOXOne will not have the same problems.
# 4 is irrelevent, as if i followed that logic - I don't need any next generation game system because i already have a dozen other game systems that play games and a bluray player.
# 5 Not sure of your age, but when I was a kid, every piece of electronics had a knob or button to turn it on. When the basic remote control came out, people said that it was a feature that nobody needed "why can't you just walk over and hit the button!". If you think that people will be using a remote control forever, you are very short sited. Most electronic devices will be either gesture or voice controlled over time. Once the voice recognition technology reaches the right level and some of the supporting tech is there, this will happen. Don't worry, we will always need our controllers...
I was saying that most people can't even accept that the OXBOXOne has some cool features, even if you personally don't want to use them.
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