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Will good holiday 2013 sales from the Wii U help bring 3rd party games to the system next year?

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Will good holiday 2013 sales from the Wii U help bring 3rd party games to the system next year?

Yes. The Wii U will sell well this holiday. 176 59.86%
 
No. The Wii U won't sell well. 59 20.07%
 
It doesn't matter if the... 31 10.54%
 
See poll results. 28 9.52%
 
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Soundwave said:

I do find it a little funny that 4-player Mario platformer couldn't sell the Wii U last year, but this year, apparently with no price cut, another 4-player Mario platformer is somehow going to cause Wii U sales to skyrocket.

The system needs a lot more variety (and thats including the games it has coming out this holiday) than just a bunch of platformers. Mario Kart 8 this holiday would've been much more ideal over Mario 3D World as the biggest title.

At $350 IMO this is a speciality item for hardcore Nintendo fanatics only.

Budget shoppers/parents/kids (groups that Nintendo usually has a chance with) will opt for the cheaper PS3/360 that have a far better library and a full roster of budget priced games.

That or the 3DS IMO which has more Nintendo franchises on it and costs far less.

Hardcore players aren't going to bite on the Wii U, they will ride out their PS3/360 until the PS4/XB1 become more affordable or appealling to those who aren't early adopters.

I'm just not seeing where the target audience for a $350 Nintendo console is. It definitely isn't the yuppie/casual crowd, they have the money to spend, but aren't going to spend it on "asymetric gaming". Their dollars are going to a new smartphone or tablet.

Im pretty sure 4-player Mario+Nintendo Land did sell the Wii U last year, it did 2.2 million in less than 2 months and is up there with some of the best launches. What they didnt do was sell consoles for the following 7-8 months. In that time the only exclusives released were Lego City Undercover and Game & Wario, most lego games have a strong brand name attached to them to help sales (Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Batman, Lord of the Rings) this one didnt have that luxury. Injustice was the only multiplat released alongside other consoles and every other game has been a late port.

This holiday greatly increases the amount of exclusives and multiplats released on time. Mario 3D World, DKC Tropical Freeze, Wind Waker, Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Sonic Lost World, Scribblenauts, Arkham Origins, AC4 Black Flag, COD Ghosts, Rayman, W101, Pikmin, Splinter Cell, Skylanders, Disney Infinity, Just Dance. Also even tho it doesnt have an official price cut it will have holiday discounts and bundles. U will probably be able to find Wii U deluxe with 1-2 extra games for $300. 



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Soundwave said:

I do find it a little funny that 4-player Mario platformer couldn't sell the Wii U last year, but this year, apparently with no price cut, another 4-player Mario platformer is somehow going to cause Wii U sales to skyrocket.

The system needs a lot more variety (and thats including the games it has coming out this holiday) than just a bunch of platformers. Mario Kart 8 this holiday would've been much more ideal over Mario 3D World as the biggest title.

At $350 IMO this is a speciality item for hardcore Nintendo fanatics only.

Budget shoppers/parents/kids (groups that Nintendo usually has a chance with) will opt for the cheaper PS3/360 that have a far better library and a full roster of budget priced games.

That or the 3DS IMO which has more Nintendo franchises on it and costs far less.

Hardcore players aren't going to bite on the Wii U, they will ride out their PS3/360 until the PS4/XB1 become more affordable or appealling to those who aren't early adopters.

I'm just not seeing where the target audience for a $350 Nintendo console is. It definitely isn't the yuppie/casual crowd, they have the money to spend, but aren't going to spend it on "asymetric gaming". Their dollars are going to a new smartphone or tablet.


So you agree the PS4 and Xbox One will flop then.



3rd parties would probably find another excuse not to develop for it, that's what a lot of them have done since the N64 era.



I see that a lot more people than I expected feel like the Wii U simply will not sell well this winter. That actually surprises me a lot, but perhaps I should explain why the Wii U will be successful, at least in hardware sales and first party IPs, this holiday.

I think that one of Nintendo's strongest points when it comes to IPs, especially as of late, is their exclusive appeal. What I mean by this is that, on top of selling with the what are undeniably the best numbers in the business, many of their IP's appeal to completely different audiences. ie Wii Fit U won't often sell to the same people who will buy The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker: HD or Super Mario 3D World.

To me, those will undoubtably sell the most consoles, especially Wii Fit U.

When a software title sells well, many have to consider how many of those sales will come from new Wii U owners. I think that Wii Fit U, with the right advertisement, will be almost as successful as the two before it. That's pretty damn successful, but a big thing to consider is that, unlike Pikmin 3, most of those sales will likely come from new Wii U owners. More specifically, I believe there will be a bundle with Wii Fit U for around $369.

I think a similar success will happen with the Wind Waker HD. A bundle is rumored to be in the words for this game and I believe there will be a LOT of bundle adds on channels like Cartoonnetwork and Nickelodeon. I predicted this bundle would happen and I am even more confident that it will happen now. I do think it will sell better than Pikmin 3 did and it will appeal to a new generation of up coming gamers.

The last game I think will have a bundle, and the one that I think will be the most successful is Super Mario 3D World. To the jaded "gamer," this is just another Mario, but to your average consumer, this is a game with a franchise history of providing at least 20 million people with hours of fun with family and friends with every release.

I genuinely don't believe that losing Battlefield hurts the Wii U at all. If anything, it only makes Ghosts more appealing. I do think that the Wii U missing Madden 25 and Fifa 14 hurts it a lot. For a lot of my friends, Madden + Call of Duty = the perfect yearly dose of games. These are normal "dude bros" who don't care about video games AT ALL. You know what other games they like? Mario Party, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, Wii Sports (tennis) and just regular Mario plat-formers. No joke. Why? Because they play video games for the co-op, not for the single player. That's how a lot of people feel, but not getting Madden 25 is a surefire way to make them skip the Wii U easily.

I think it was easier for the Wii to be first party only because it was so cheap. That isn't true for the Wii U.

I think is should be mentioned that none of these "dude bro" friends of mine plan on getting next gen consoles anytime soon. They are fine with their 360's. (None have PS3's) I asked what they plan on getting next gen and they said "Honestly, nothing. The XBO looks cool though." This was days after the reveal.

I think the Wii U had the chance to lure in this crowd. If it was getting Madden 25, that would've been really good for Nintendo now that it's getting a proper Mario. I think there's a misconception that dude bros are, well, dude bros. I think that instead, they'll just go where simple, popular, and fun games are. And they'll go where their friends are. Plain and simple.

If anything will "save the Wii U" this winter, it will be Wii Fit U and especially Super Mario 3D world. A Wind Waker bundle will help a lot. Donkey Kong will help to. The largest audience for ALL video game consoles are children and casuals. I just don't see them saying "oh, another Mario."
They haven't for 30 years.

I think that the third party games just help make the purchase feel justified for a lot of people.



Well, this is new.

Read.

The Wii U might sell well, but 3rd parties will find excuses to still not put their games on it.



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zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:

I do find it a little funny that 4-player Mario platformer couldn't sell the Wii U last year, but this year, apparently with no price cut, another 4-player Mario platformer is somehow going to cause Wii U sales to skyrocket.

The system needs a lot more variety (and thats including the games it has coming out this holiday) than just a bunch of platformers. Mario Kart 8 this holiday would've been much more ideal over Mario 3D World as the biggest title.

At $350 IMO this is a speciality item for hardcore Nintendo fanatics only.

Budget shoppers/parents/kids (groups that Nintendo usually has a chance with) will opt for the cheaper PS3/360 that have a far better library and a full roster of budget priced games.

That or the 3DS IMO which has more Nintendo franchises on it and costs far less.

Hardcore players aren't going to bite on the Wii U, they will ride out their PS3/360 until the PS4/XB1 become more affordable or appealling to those who aren't early adopters.

I'm just not seeing where the target audience for a $350 Nintendo console is. It definitely isn't the yuppie/casual crowd, they have the money to spend, but aren't going to spend it on "asymetric gaming". Their dollars are going to a new smartphone or tablet.

Im pretty sure 4-player Mario+Nintendo Land did sell the Wii U last year, it did 2.2 million in less than 2 months and is up there with some of the best launches. What they didnt do was sell consoles for the following 7-8 months. In that time the only exclusives released were Lego City Undercover and Game & Wario, most lego games have a strong brand name attached to them to help sales (Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Batman, Lord of the Rings) this one didnt have that luxury. Injustice was the only multiplat released alongside other consoles and every other game has been a late port.

This holiday greatly increases the amount of exclusives and multiplats released on time. Mario 3D World, DKC Tropical Freeze, Wind Waker, Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Sonic Lost World, Scribblenauts, Arkham Origins, AC4 Black Flag, COD Ghosts, Rayman, W101, Pikmin, Splinter Cell, Skylanders, Disney Infinity, Just Dance. Also even tho it doesnt have an official price cut it will have holiday discounts and bundles. U will probably be able to find Wii U deluxe with 1-2 extra games for $300. 

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. I like soundwave but i don't agree with what he often says



No. Only Ubisoft will be with Wii U (and just a few games). Maybe Warner. And some random CoD.



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Honestly wouldnt be surprised if Wii U only gets the big annual releases from the likes of Activision/Ubisoft/Warner and gets some solid exclusives from Japanese devs like Namco/Sega/Platinum



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MohammadBadir said:
bananaking21 said:
they will get less and less i think. most publishers wont bother downgrading their games (visually, physics) and trying to port the game to the WiiU. the PS4/X1/PC market seems like it will be the place to go to for third parties this gen.


Yes because the PS2 was more powerful than the Xbox

No but its games didn't look like they were a generation behind the Xbox or GC either, and it didn't have to rely on a handful of old franchises in order to sell.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Who knows. It should. The Wii U is a powerful machine, and the power gap this time around between it and the PS4 is substantially smaller. But the Wii sold like hotcakes, which should have been enough for more third parties to put BETTER games on it, but they didn't. So who the fuck knows.