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the thing is with indie exclu it's not that it is not great to have them.... and that they can't be excellent just as much than big studios..... but I feel like it is like saying my Halloween decoration are the best just because more kids showed up not because the decoration was great but because I gave more candy to more kids and they all grouped up in my courtyard and the ranking is made through headcount no matter the age and relevance of each head.....

to me it's exactly the same as MS trying to add value by buying time exclusive DLC....



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endimion said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Conegamer said:
endimion said:
bahaha 1 million+ preorder in 32 countries.... and people still expect the gap to be huge :D

anyway I want that country list if someone has it ???

No word on it yet, but basically all the big countries will be getting it.

And what gap is this?


Yeah I didn't get that part either. 1 million+ pre-orders to only be releasing this year in US and Europe is AMAZING....it is verified for 32 countires though. So I guess I don't get what you are saying. Not trying to be rude or anything just curious.


well I guess it's a question of perception..... it's under 32K per country.... I was expecting way more hearing all the fuss.... so my guess sales gap between XB1 and PS3 this christmas will be pretty thin countrary to what people where thinking.... considering in how many more countries the PS4 is releasing compared to XB1....

But those 1 million+ are more than likely MOSTLY from NA and Europe seeing as those are the places they are releasing this holiday which is what makes them so amazing. And in that aspect actully make the gap seem like it will indeed be as big as maybe 3:1. Not saying ti will but I think you are looking at it wrong. It has been CONFIRMED to be releasing in 32 countires but as of right now the only ones set in stone are NA and Europe and 1 mil+ with that is A LOT.



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I dont get why people make such a big fuss about a game being AAA or indie. Most of the top games/most played and bought games on PC these days are "indie" titles. Login to steam now and have a look for yourself.

Some of the GAMES shown today looked better than some shitty AAA games that get announced, hyped and then turn out crap or end up not releasing at all.

I mean seriously look at a game like Rime....I DONT CARE if thats an "indie" game. It looks fucking amazing.

Also just about everything announced today has some sort of exclusivity to Playstation. A lot of those games are also coming to Vita...I think people missed that part. The work sony has done with devs has really payed off. People also seem to forget that these indie games are not made by random devs...a lot of the games mentioned today are follow ups by devs who have made some of the most successful indie games....

Were people really expecting AAA titles to be unveiled today? Sony has about 2 - 3 AAA ps4 games left to be announced and that will probably come at the end of the year or at E3 next year. Third parties are also no longer doing AAA exclusives...the ones that are doing them have already been announced.

It was a good show. And its damn sure better than not having a show at all.

One thing id agree with people on is the dire situation the vita is in. Its getting a lot of support now and it will be at a decent price. But it needs a unique selling point, which quite frankly it just doesn't have at the moment. Worst of all, it doesnt seem like Sony can do anything about this (other than what they are doing at the moment). Unless they want to spend ridiculous amounts of money (which they dont have).




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endimion said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Conegamer said:
endimion said:
bahaha 1 million+ preorder in 32 countries.... and people still expect the gap to be huge :D

anyway I want that country list if someone has it ???

No word on it yet, but basically all the big countries will be getting it.

And what gap is this?


Yeah I didn't get that part either. 1 million+ pre-orders to only be releasing this year in US and Europe is AMAZING....it is verified for 32 countires though. So I guess I don't get what you are saying. Not trying to be rude or anything just curious.


well I guess it's a question of perception..... it's under 32K per country.... I was expecting way more hearing all the fuss.... so my guess sales gap between XB1 and PS3 this christmas will be pretty thin countrary to what people where thinking.... considering in how many more countries the PS4 is releasing compared to XB1....

You cant be serious with that post?

You expected more than 1 million pre-orders for PS4 as of now? Seriously? How many were you expecting? 2 million>? 3 million?

I wasnt expecting anything near that amount.

Also whats up with your 32k per country comment? Im pretty sure PS4 will be releasing in countries in Africa too...you think poorer regions will have anywhere near the amount of the bigger regions?

I can guarentee you that most of those pre-orders come from the NA/Europe/Japan regions. 

Why do you think Andrew House had a massive smile on hes face when he said 1 million? I can assure you that wasnt a PR smile. Sony is poised to have a really strong launch. And by the looks of things, they probably leading in pre-orders over Xbone in every region they plan to launch. This is crazy considering how close things have been this gen.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
endimion said:


well I guess it's a question of perception..... it's under 32K per country.... I was expecting way more hearing all the fuss.... so my guess sales gap between XB1 and PS3 this christmas will be pretty thin countrary to what people where thinking.... considering in how many more countries the PS4 is releasing compared to XB1....

But those 1 million+ are more than likely MOSTLY from NA and Europe seeing as those are the places they are releasing this holiday which is what makes them so amazing. And in that aspect actully make the gap seem like it will indeed be as big as maybe 3:1. Not saying ti will but I think you are looking at it wrong. It has been CONFIRMED to be releasing in 32 countires but as of right now the only ones set in stone are NA and Europe and 1 mil+ with that is A LOT.


It doesnt really matter. Even if PS4 was releasing in 50 countries simultaneously on Novemeber 13 2013. Other regions don't come anywhere close to the buying power of NA/Europe and Japan. The sales in the bigger regions will dwarf the sales everywhere else.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
endimion said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Conegamer said:
endimion said:
bahaha 1 million+ preorder in 32 countries.... and people still expect the gap to be huge :D

anyway I want that country list if someone has it ???

No word on it yet, but basically all the big countries will be getting it.

And what gap is this?


Yeah I didn't get that part either. 1 million+ pre-orders to only be releasing this year in US and Europe is AMAZING....it is verified for 32 countires though. So I guess I don't get what you are saying. Not trying to be rude or anything just curious.


well I guess it's a question of perception..... it's under 32K per country.... I was expecting way more hearing all the fuss.... so my guess sales gap between XB1 and PS3 this christmas will be pretty thin countrary to what people where thinking.... considering in how many more countries the PS4 is releasing compared to XB1....

But those 1 million+ are more than likely MOSTLY from NA and Europe seeing as those are the places they are releasing this holiday which is what makes them so amazing. And in that aspect actully make the gap seem like it will indeed be as big as maybe 3:1. Not saying ti will but I think you are looking at it wrong. It has been CONFIRMED to be releasing in 32 countires but as of right now the only ones set in stone are NA and Europe and 1 mil+ with that is A LOT.


well you have 27 countries in europe and that's just the EU ones you add the 2 in NA and Brazil you have 30 country right there... so not amazing to me again....

so you expect XB to do less than 300K preorders ????

I expect XB to do 150K in NA alone....   at least



endimion said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
endimion said:


well I guess it's a question of perception..... it's under 32K per country.... I was expecting way more hearing all the fuss.... so my guess sales gap between XB1 and PS3 this christmas will be pretty thin countrary to what people where thinking.... considering in how many more countries the PS4 is releasing compared to XB1....

But those 1 million+ are more than likely MOSTLY from NA and Europe seeing as those are the places they are releasing this holiday which is what makes them so amazing. And in that aspect actully make the gap seem like it will indeed be as big as maybe 3:1. Not saying ti will but I think you are looking at it wrong. It has been CONFIRMED to be releasing in 32 countires but as of right now the only ones set in stone are NA and Europe and 1 mil+ with that is A LOT.


well you have 27 countries in europe and that's just the EU ones you add the 2 in NA and Brazil you have 30 country right there... so not amazing to me again....

so you expect XB to do less than 300K preorders ????

I expect XB to do 150K in NA alone....   at least

So then what would be considered amazing then if not this? Fora home console at that? And I am not saying that at all...even most sources say the PS4 pre-orders is leading at least 2:1 ahead of the One and others 3:1, demand for both are great the PS4 just seems to have a lot of steam right now!



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Ajescent said:
There was a bit in the conference where they had AssCre 3 up on screen and the ps+ icon. what did they say during that bit? I missed it.


Hey, I am happy Aveline is back. I might just pick up a launch copy to get the Aveline code and the extra hours of gameplay. Everyone knew she was connected to conner somehow.



endimion said:

so you expect XB to do less than 300K preorders ????

I expect XB to do 150K in NA alone....   at least

And if you looked at 360 sales, you'd note that around 50% of its sales are in NA... what makes you think it will be different now?

Let's not forget these preorder numbers are accompanied by heavy noise (idiots that will cancel and buy "the other" console just  "to make a point"), ebayers that preordered 20 and cancel 18 if stock levels turn out to be sufficient. Anything goes, essentially, I don't really expect the 1mio number (actual pre-order sales in the end) to significantly increase until November.



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