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I want real power, cloud power is like cyber sex! im kidding!

 

 

Actually i look forward to see them in action side by side when they finally come out. no real opinions yet. i figure it will be like this gen, i dont know yet. looks good on paper though.



 

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the-pi-guy said:
Tabular said:
Imaginedvl said:
NYCrysis said:

ps4 can be native 1080 while one might be sub full hd. One can maintain a better framerate than the other. Pretty much all I can think of in terms of multiplat games due to them needing to be on Parity.

Forza says hi... I think you are just making thing out of nowhere...

You know that the Xbox 360 can do native 1080p at 60sec without any problem right?... While displaying a single black box :)

Same for the PS4/Xbox One, there is no : "PS4 can do 1080p native, while Xbox One can do sub-HD...., both can do native 1080p and it will depend on game developpers now...

Uh... your dead wrong. He's talking about a multiplatform game. And yes more power means one version will be reduced resolution and or framerate. Citing an exclusive game built from the ground up for one platform means nothing. Digital Foundry has done tests with PC's to see what a system with 50% less compute units would need to do to keep up with a more powerful machine and running at 900p instead of 1080p is what they found was needed. NYCrysis was dead on.

Digital Foundry's test was not well designed.  

There are a lot of things that a gpu is used for.  They could easily have both versions have the same frame rate and same resolution and increase draw distances on PS4.  There are a lot of options to mess around with on PC for a reason, they all affect performance.  

DF forgot ONE MAJOR thing about the gpu's and it's that the ps4 has DOUBLE the rops of the xbone and in df's test both gpu's had the same # of rops.



25frames per second. ie a HUGE AMOUNT



NYCrysis said:
Imaginedvl said:
NYCrysis said:

Now u are saying a bit less power, but in reality the difference is much larger than it was with ps360. And how am I talking out of my ass when the same thing has happened multiple times this gen?

(And before you say look at titanfall, forza, the cloudz, M$ coding powress etc..., Sony's 1st party went through hell dealing with the cell, split memory pool, and weaker gpu vs the 360 yet they were able to push boundaries and create the best looking games this gen. So please don't give me the even though xbox1 is weaker its shape sound (ps4 has dedicated sound proc. too), tools, cloud should make it on par with the ps4 cause that's a hunk of bull. We still haven't seen sony's big 2 ssm and ND show anything to really see the diff btwn ps4/one.) This is more of a general ps4/xb1 power statement.

Also regarding BF4 (M$'s moneyhatted baby) lets see when it releases shall we. I love before ps4/xbox one no one argued about dx/open gl on ps360 yet now it somehow matters? It smells like M$ marketing to me. 

LOL at this wall of hate :)
Sorry if I ofended you by saying "a bit less powerful", your precious PS4 is still not bad at all :)

Too bad you can't rebuttlal my wall of hate I really wanted to see what ur counterargument would have been :( 
Sorry if my wall of hate offended ur precious xbone. ur precious xbone is still bad though :( 

rofl Repeat what I said and replacing PS4 by Xbox One... That's all you can do, ishh :)
And frankly, arguing with "smell like M$ marketing to me"? You really want anyone to waste time arguing with someone saying pathetic stuff like that? 

Dude, just go play on PC if " having the best possible "graphics" is sooooo important to you.



NYCrysis said:

I already have a gaming rig but it's mostly for multiplat SP games. I hate playing online on my pc cause I hate using m+kb so I get owned using a controller and most of my friends play on playstation so that too that's what I have my console for. 


Props to you! I actually never thought about the online aspect. Most people blatantly state they hate the keyboard and mouse and really give no reasonings why, that's a very valid one that I never thought of. :)

the-pi-guy said:

PCs don't really have generations.  I just hate it when people compare consoles to PCs.  It's unimaginably pointless.  What about super computers?  If people were making games for super computers, it would bulldozer over any PC dozens of times over without even trying.  The thing with PCs, is that there is a large variety of systems and no limit for cost, unlike a console.  PCs are like trees, they can continue growing as much as they want and will for as long as they can.  Consoles are like trees cut down and made into desks.  They aren't going to change.  They're both very good at what they do, but they are very different.


I never stated the PC did have generations, not directly at any rate.



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Don't know .. . don't care. Both machines look impressive, and I expect great stuff from them both. I couldn't care less about the gap - however big or small. As long as multiplatform games are not gimped on my platform of choice I'm happy, and for the other platform as well. It would be good if people didn't have to experience gimped versions of a game, irrespective of their preferred platform.



 

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Pemalite said:
NYCrysis said:

I already have a gaming rig but it's mostly for multiplat SP games. I hate playing online on my pc cause I hate using m+kb so I get owned using a controller and most of my friends play on playstation so that too that's what I have my console for. 


Props to you! I actually never thought about the online aspect. Most people blatantly state they hate the keyboard and mouse and really give no reasonings why, that's a very valid one that I never thought of. :)


I can aim with a mouse but I am trash at walking using a keyboard and I could never get used to it. Recently I tried using a move navigation controller on the pc using ds3 tool but still no dice it was next to impossible trying to use both at the same time (software and compatability issues).



Imaginedvl said:
NYCrysis said:

Too bad you can't rebuttlal my wall of hate I really wanted to see what ur counterargument would have been :( 
Sorry if my wall of hate offended ur precious xbone. ur precious xbone is still bad though :( 

rofl Repeat what I said and replacing PS4 by Xbox One... That's all you can do, ishh :)
And frankly, arguing with "smell like M$ marketing to me"? You really want anyone to waste time arguing with someone saying pathetic stuff like that? 

Dude, just go play on PC if " having the best possible "graphics" is sooooo important to you.

I did that one on purpose ;)

It's ok to admit that u can't rebuttal my statements ;)



NYCrysis said:
Imaginedvl said:
NYCrysis said:

Too bad you can't rebuttlal my wall of hate I really wanted to see what ur counterargument would have been :( 
Sorry if my wall of hate offended ur precious xbone. ur precious xbone is still bad though :( 

rofl Repeat what I said and replacing PS4 by Xbox One... That's all you can do, ishh :)
And frankly, arguing with "smell like M$ marketing to me"? You really want anyone to waste time arguing with someone saying pathetic stuff like that? 

Dude, just go play on PC if " having the best possible "graphics" is sooooo important to you.

I did that one on purpose ;)

It's ok to admit that u can't rebuttal my statements ;)

Alright,I'm out to play some Halo on 360! Take care :)



Pemalite said:
the-pi-guy said:

PCs don't really have generations.  I just hate it when people compare consoles to PCs.  It's unimaginably pointless.  What about super computers?  If people were making games for super computers, it would bulldozer over any PC dozens of times over without even trying.  The thing with PCs, is that there is a large variety of systems and no limit for cost, unlike a console.  PCs are like trees, they can continue growing as much as they want and will for as long as they can.  Consoles are like trees cut down and made into desks.  They aren't going to change.  They're both very good at what they do, but they are very different.


I never stated the PC did have generations, not directly at any rate.

"Well for starters, the best looking games this generation wasn't even on the PS3 or Xbox 360, it was on the PC."

It was definitely implied.  

A new generation of consoles should improve PC graphics also.  They aren't going to be held back by 7 or 8 year old consoles.  Graphics can be a very important thing for people.  I can think of dozens of games that wouldn't have been as good if graphics didn't improve to allow 3D.  So it's not like buying a new console for improved graphics is a ridiculous concept even compared to PCs.  Consoles are more powerful than PCs priced at the same, PS4 was estimated to be a 500 or 600$ PC.  This is without even adding the benefits of it being a console.  According to John Carmack, consoles give about twice as much as a PC at the same specs.