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This is weird...

The industry is young, and there's lots of mysteries surrounding it. Hope I make it out of this in one piece.



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nin10do said:
This is weird...

The industry is young, and there's lots of mysteries surrounding it. Hope I make it out of this in one piece.

Mysterious typing...

What's up?



Kaizar said:

I can see the 3DS lifetime sales being 240 million.

But with Wii U I don't see any higher then maybe 210 to 230 million.

I say the Wii U will at least get more then 120 million in life time sales.

 

I wouldn't be surprise to see Wii U get 150 to around 200 million.

 

But 240 million for the Wii U seems to be pushing it, since it's just a 6 year Home Console, if it had 1 to 2 more years before the next Nintendo Home Console, I would say realistic.


The entire gaming market is about 200 million users, so you are expecting absolutely everyone to buy 1.1 consoles on average?  I don't know how anyone can seriously think that a single console will sell more than 150 million units in the next generation...



johnlucas said:
Incubi said:

So. As i understand it, Nintendo is preparing to launch WiiU this fall in the following territories?

Brazil (Population: 201 000 000)
Mexico (Population: 118 000 000)
South Korea (Population: 50 200 000)
Malaysia (28 300 000)
Taiwan (23 400 000)
Hong Kong (7 700 000)
Singapore (5 300 000)

What will this do to WiiU sales? Are these countries buying power enough to facilitate massive growth for Nintendo. If so, is that the reason John believes WiiU sales will reach 12 000 000 by dec 31 2013?

Also keep your eye on Japan.
John Lucas

You KNEW this bundle would hit Japan, didn't you:D



DM235 said:
Kaizar said:

I can see the 3DS lifetime sales being 240 million.

But with Wii U I don't see any higher then maybe 210 to 230 million.

I say the Wii U will at least get more then 120 million in life time sales.

 

I wouldn't be surprise to see Wii U get 150 to around 200 million.

 

But 240 million for the Wii U seems to be pushing it, since it's just a 6 year Home Console, if it had 1 to 2 more years before the next Nintendo Home Console, I would say realistic.


The entire gaming market is about 200 million users, so you are expecting absolutely everyone to buy 1.1 consoles on average?  I don't know how anyone can seriously think that a single console will sell more than 150 million units in the next generation...

The competition won't last an entire generation, they are finally running out of funds or patience to waste. 

Also, you say that like the market hasn't grown incredibly and is suddenly going to stop growing. JL and I have different opinions on the phone market, I don't think it's going to crash, it's just going to grow to numbers in the billions, seeing as the technology is becoming cheaper and phones are seen as a basic human right in many places, that's not too farfetched. Phones are a gateway gaming device in my eyes, before we had around 60 million consumers, now it's around 200 Million.  

Even now, 200 Million is a small number, considering the population. He's saying 3% of the population will buy it, considering the above, and the fact that this generation is estimated to last longer than a decade, that's very possible. 

Btw, on the hilarious notion that smartphone gaming will make other devices go away because it's got a bigger market, and more people are playing on that than dedicated systems by the number, that just supports what I said. It's a gateway gaming device that everyone has access to, of course it's going to be bigger, one thing not taken into account, is the fact that the numbers for other devices are still growing, not shrinking. Sure, more people play on their iDevices than a 3DS, but those numbers don't mention that the 3DS is still doing incredibly well at 30 Million+ units sold without Pokemon even being out, or that there's 250 Million home console sales and growing. 

Dedicated gaming isn't going anywhere, it's going to continue to get bigger. Going into the next decade doing less than 100 Million could be considered bad, or even a failure. Don't forget, China's doors just opened up a few months ago, a whole new market is now available, and is primarily Nintendo's domain, with no need to censor or worry about games being banned.



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Woot, that looks awesome.



The domination intensifies.



nin10do said:
DM235 said:
Kaizar said:

I can see the 3DS lifetime sales being 240 million.

But with Wii U I don't see any higher then maybe 210 to 230 million.

I say the Wii U will at least get more then 120 million in life time sales.

 

I wouldn't be surprise to see Wii U get 150 to around 200 million.

 

But 240 million for the Wii U seems to be pushing it, since it's just a 6 year Home Console, if it had 1 to 2 more years before the next Nintendo Home Console, I would say realistic.


The entire gaming market is about 200 million users, so you are expecting absolutely everyone to buy 1.1 consoles on average?  I don't know how anyone can seriously think that a single console will sell more than 150 million units in the next generation...

The competition won't last an entire generation, they are finally running out of funds or patience to waste. 

Also, you say that like the market hasn't grown incredibly and is suddenly going to stop growing. JL and I have different opinions on the phone market, I don't think it's going to crash, it's just going to grow to numbers in the billions, seeing as the technology is becoming cheaper and phones are seen as a basic human right in many places, that's not too farfetched. Phones are a gateway gaming device in my eyes, before we had around 60 million consumers, now it's around 200 Million.  

Even now, 200 Million is a small number, considering the population. He's saying 3% of the population will buy it, considering the above, and the fact that this generation is estimated to last longer than a decade, that's very possible. 

Btw, on the hilarious notion that smartphone gaming will make other devices go away because it's got a bigger market, and more people are playing on that than dedicated systems by the number, that just supports what I said. It's a gateway gaming device that everyone has access to, of course it's going to be bigger, one thing not taken into account, is the fact that the numbers for other devices are still growing, not shrinking. Sure, more people play on their iDevices than a 3DS, but those numbers don't mention that the 3DS is still doing incredibly well at 30 Million+ units sold without Pokemon even being out, or that there's 250 Million home console sales and growing. 

Dedicated gaming isn't going anywhere, it's going to continue to get bigger. Going into the next decade doing less than 100 Million could be considered bad, or even a failure. Don't forget, China's doors just opened up a few months ago, a whole new market is now available, and is primarily Nintendo's domain, with no need to censor or worry about games being banned.

Phone gaming needs to do something about their business model thats for sure.

Otherwise more of this will happen  www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-09-24-game-devs-ditching-mobile-in-favor-of-pc-console

 

Along with this http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/09/developer_interview_xander_davis_on_astrogun_indie_potential_and_the_wii_u

 

Get working on that presentation of yours, we want to see it



It's to be the last major post, can't rush that when info is still coming in.



nin10do said:
It's to be the last major post, can't rush that when info is still coming in.

I'd just like you to post what you've got and get this over with.

I can confirm you're wrong.