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The same quality as the replies to zod95 and seece, I see.

And, no, you can't say that anything in that old post was correct, if that were the case then the DS was probably "short circuited" about 5-6 times with the revisions it recieved and 3DS has already been short circuited a few times as well (you kept droning on about both Sony and MS leaving the console scene for years and you still don't have any new material). You correctly stated that the Wii would pass the 360 very quickly and that it would sell 20 million or more by year's end 2007, that's pretty much it. Practically every prediction since then has crashed horribly, your fans make it sound like you're right most of the time and had a couple of slight misses when the truth is that you were right a couple of times and have had a series of incredibly failed predictions.

Like I stated in a PM to another member; I wouldn't mind if you wrote a theory and posted some musings around a subject (the subject being Nintendo, obviously) but what I do mind is you stating everything as "truth" and facts, you label people as "non-believers" and other nonsense like some religious zealot and you started this thread because you were tired of all the doom talk while you yourself do nothing but post doom talk and have been for many years. It's always the same; everyone else is fucked and Nintendo will rise to the top and stay there and, quite frankly, it's getting old and will look more and more silly every time you post the same theory.
Your attitude on these forums is revolting, in my opinion.

I'm quite sure you'll make an appearance in the 9th gen and have yet another go, and like now, you won't have changed your tactic one bit. I learned so much from the 7th gen, you apparently learned nothing.

The fact that you try to spin that into being somehow correct speaks volumes of the quality of your imminent reply, I expect nothing other than the same kind of rhetoric, spin, dodging and crazy justification/speculation.



johnlucas said:
Mummelmann said:
About time. The longer you wait, the more data I have supporting my views.

I wonder though; worth the wait for whom? I'm expecting nothing new, perhaps the same song in a different tune but that's pretty much it.

Here's hoping you can put me in my place like in the golden days of 2008;
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=518865


Short burst before I get the main rebuttal out.

When you put up this old reply from me to you from February 17, 2008 stating:

johnlucas said:
Mummelmann said:
I think I covered this subject in my expectations thread a while back, stating that Nintendo would indeed up production, but not to more than 2.2 million. Also, notice how JL never makes predictions for 360 or PS3. Do you not care about the other platforms at all John? I don't get it, claiming to be an all knowing and avid gamer, and you won't even acknowledge other platforms.


Actually I have. But they are bit more negative and I don't want to reiterate them over and over again to look like I'm spreading doom and gloom towards a console.

Do you really want me around here saying over and over that PS3 will not make it out of the year 2009 and Metal Gear Solid 4 will not go to the PS3?

Do you want me saying that Microsoft in the need to maintain traction for the 360 in 2008 will buy exclusives away from Sony to get an edge and that they will lowball PS3 with price cuts at crucial intervals when PS3 looks like it can gather momentum?

Do you want me saying that Microsoft will short circuit the 360's lifespan to make their next console before 2009 is up in order to keep up with the market after Wii has changed it for both competitors?

No, I can't be saying those kinds of predictions because all it would end up doing is spreading bad blood in the forum and we certainly don't need any more of that.

Besides predicting on Wii is fun.

I need to start making some DS predictions now that I got a system.

John Lucas

Didn't the PS3 practically have a reboot in 2009? A relaunch? A total overhaul?
Didn't the 360 stymie the PS3's advantages by getting games for their system treated with priority over the PS3's through moneyhatting?
Didn't the 360 continuously undercut the PS3 in price everytime the PS3 had a chance to even up the score?

OK the year may be off by one but didn't the 360 do an even more extreme overhaul than the PS3 in 2010?
Didn't they do a relaunch, a reboot too as a response to Wii's changing of the market?
What was the Kinect & NXE (New XBox Experience) interface all about with its family focus, motion sensing, & cartoony avatars?

While the Metal Gear Solid 4 prediction didn't pan out, what you posted does not shame me.

When I deliver the main rebuttal, your points will be shut down.
It's taking long because you deserve the same quality reply I gave to guys like Zod95 & Seece.
It's probably the longest reply I have ever given on this thread which is saying a lot.
But your arguments will be unraveled once I'm done.
John Lucas

How is a revision the same thing as a relaunch?



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Fusioncode said:
johnlucas said:
Mummelmann said:
About time. The longer you wait, the more data I have supporting my views.

I wonder though; worth the wait for whom? I'm expecting nothing new, perhaps the same song in a different tune but that's pretty much it.

Here's hoping you can put me in my place like in the golden days of 2008;
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=518865


Short burst before I get the main rebuttal out.

When you put up this old reply from me to you from February 17, 2008 stating:

johnlucas said:
Mummelmann said:
I think I covered this subject in my expectations thread a while back, stating that Nintendo would indeed up production, but not to more than 2.2 million. Also, notice how JL never makes predictions for 360 or PS3. Do you not care about the other platforms at all John? I don't get it, claiming to be an all knowing and avid gamer, and you won't even acknowledge other platforms.


Actually I have. But they are bit more negative and I don't want to reiterate them over and over again to look like I'm spreading doom and gloom towards a console.

Do you really want me around here saying over and over that PS3 will not make it out of the year 2009 and Metal Gear Solid 4 will not go to the PS3?

Do you want me saying that Microsoft in the need to maintain traction for the 360 in 2008 will buy exclusives away from Sony to get an edge and that they will lowball PS3 with price cuts at crucial intervals when PS3 looks like it can gather momentum?

Do you want me saying that Microsoft will short circuit the 360's lifespan to make their next console before 2009 is up in order to keep up with the market after Wii has changed it for both competitors?

No, I can't be saying those kinds of predictions because all it would end up doing is spreading bad blood in the forum and we certainly don't need any more of that.

Besides predicting on Wii is fun.

I need to start making some DS predictions now that I got a system.

John Lucas

Didn't the PS3 practically have a reboot in 2009? A relaunch? A total overhaul?
Didn't the 360 stymie the PS3's advantages by getting games for their system treated with priority over the PS3's through moneyhatting?
Didn't the 360 continuously undercut the PS3 in price everytime the PS3 had a chance to even up the score?

OK the year may be off by one but didn't the 360 do an even more extreme overhaul than the PS3 in 2010?
Didn't they do a relaunch, a reboot too as a response to Wii's changing of the market?
What was the Kinect & NXE (New XBox Experience) interface all about with its family focus, motion sensing, & cartoony avatars?

While the Metal Gear Solid 4 prediction didn't pan out, what you posted does not shame me.

When I deliver the main rebuttal, your points will be shut down.
It's taking long because you deserve the same quality reply I gave to guys like Zod95 & Seece.
It's probably the longest reply I have ever given on this thread which is saying a lot.
But your arguments will be unraveled once I'm done.
John Lucas

How is a revision the same thing as a relaunch?

I have been here a long time and I can tell you that this guy will go to the end of the world with nonsense before admitting he has a credibility problem. Most of his new fans in here probably have no idea about all the silly things he said years ago.

If you go to his profile and look at the threads he's started over the years, you can see some of it, you'll see the exact same as in this OP, theories built on hatred, wishes and immense leaps of faith. And back then, as now, he stated everything as truth and fact. In short; no one should take him seriously, he's done this exact thread and topic many times before and has never been close.

If you think this is bad, just wait until he postpones the revolution, starts talking about the fall and the next holiday, the incredible demise of Sony and MS before 2015 is up and some sort of wild rationalization as to why the holiday didn't go the way he stated as a fact and truth that it would. And, remember; it's always someone else's fault, Nintendo has nothing to do with this.



Mummelmann said:

I have been here a long time and I can tell you that this guy will go to the end of the world with nonsense before admitting he has a credibility problem. Most of his new fans in here probably have no idea about all the silly things he said years ago.

If you go to his profile and look at the threads he's started over the years, you can see some of it, you'll see the exact same as in this OP, theories built on hatred, wishes and immense leaps of faith. And back then, as now, he stated everything as truth and fact. In short; no one should take him seriously, he's done this exact thread and topic many times before and has never been close.

If you think this is bad, just wait until he postpones the revolution, starts talking about the fall and the next holiday, the incredible demise of Sony and MS before 2015 is up and some sort of wild rationalization as to why the holiday didn't go the way he stated as a fact and truth that it would. And, remember; it's always someone else's fault, Nintendo has nothing to do with this.

Heh, I don't think I had seen the Wii Music prediction.

Opening week: 750k
October NPD: 1.2 million
US 2008: 3 million
WW 2008: 5 million
"Wii Music will be a tattoo on the monthly top ten in both VGC's & NPD's figures. It won't leave that list for months, years even."

Reality
Took seven weeks to pass 750k.
October NPD was 81k
US 2008 was 862k
WW 2008 was 2.1m
Wii Music only achieved one month in the NPD top 10, November 2008.

I wonder if Gamerace ever got his $10.

johnlucas said:
Gamerace said:

Okay $10 VC or Wiiware bet (that's something nanaztips and I started.  Unfortunately I lost that one...)

I'm tempted to say 1 month sig chance but you post so infrequently these days I may not get much satisfaction out of 1 mth so let's go 3. Whatever the other guy fancies as long as it's in good taste.

So what do you want to bet on specifically? 750,000 1st week? 3m NA, 5m WW by end of 08 or all three? If it meets or exceeds you win, if not...

Sounds good to me.

All terms listed in thread like I stated previously.

It's on!

John Lucas



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^That is one of his better ones, the Wii Music one.



Haha, one more time :P

 

Ironic that Wii Music was one of the main culprits responsible for putting a stop to the Wii´s momentum.



Mummelmann said:
Fusioncode said:
johnlucas said:
Mummelmann said:
About time. The longer you wait, the more data I have supporting my views.

I wonder though; worth the wait for whom? I'm expecting nothing new, perhaps the same song in a different tune but that's pretty much it.

Here's hoping you can put me in my place like in the golden days of 2008;
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=518865


Short burst before I get the main rebuttal out.

When you put up this old reply from me to you from February 17, 2008 stating:

johnlucas said:
Mummelmann said:
I think I covered this subject in my expectations thread a while back, stating that Nintendo would indeed up production, but not to more than 2.2 million. Also, notice how JL never makes predictions for 360 or PS3. Do you not care about the other platforms at all John? I don't get it, claiming to be an all knowing and avid gamer, and you won't even acknowledge other platforms.


Actually I have. But they are bit more negative and I don't want to reiterate them over and over again to look like I'm spreading doom and gloom towards a console.

Do you really want me around here saying over and over that PS3 will not make it out of the year 2009 and Metal Gear Solid 4 will not go to the PS3?

Do you want me saying that Microsoft in the need to maintain traction for the 360 in 2008 will buy exclusives away from Sony to get an edge and that they will lowball PS3 with price cuts at crucial intervals when PS3 looks like it can gather momentum?

Do you want me saying that Microsoft will short circuit the 360's lifespan to make their next console before 2009 is up in order to keep up with the market after Wii has changed it for both competitors?

No, I can't be saying those kinds of predictions because all it would end up doing is spreading bad blood in the forum and we certainly don't need any more of that.

Besides predicting on Wii is fun.

I need to start making some DS predictions now that I got a system.

John Lucas

Didn't the PS3 practically have a reboot in 2009? A relaunch? A total overhaul?
Didn't the 360 stymie the PS3's advantages by getting games for their system treated with priority over the PS3's through moneyhatting?
Didn't the 360 continuously undercut the PS3 in price everytime the PS3 had a chance to even up the score?

OK the year may be off by one but didn't the 360 do an even more extreme overhaul than the PS3 in 2010?
Didn't they do a relaunch, a reboot too as a response to Wii's changing of the market?
What was the Kinect & NXE (New XBox Experience) interface all about with its family focus, motion sensing, & cartoony avatars?

While the Metal Gear Solid 4 prediction didn't pan out, what you posted does not shame me.

When I deliver the main rebuttal, your points will be shut down.
It's taking long because you deserve the same quality reply I gave to guys like Zod95 & Seece.
It's probably the longest reply I have ever given on this thread which is saying a lot.
But your arguments will be unraveled once I'm done.
John Lucas

How is a revision the same thing as a relaunch?

I have been here a long time and I can tell you that this guy will go to the end of the world with nonsense before admitting he has a credibility problem. Most of his new fans in here probably have no idea about all the silly things he said years ago.

If you go to his profile and look at the threads he's started over the years, you can see some of it, you'll see the exact same as in this OP, theories built on hatred, wishes and immense leaps of faith. And back then, as now, he stated everything as truth and fact. In short; no one should take him seriously, he's done this exact thread and topic many times before and has never been close.

If you think this is bad, just wait until he postpones the revolution, starts talking about the fall and the next holiday, the incredible demise of Sony and MS before 2015 is up and some sort of wild rationalization as to why the holiday didn't go the way he stated as a fact and truth that it would. And, remember; it's always someone else's fault, Nintendo has nothing to do with this.

Yeah it seems so. His posts are fun to read but they lack any logic whatsoever. Still, it's always fun to watch predictions fail. Especially the insane ones. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

I am imagining a text wall so large from John Lucas' next post that it will dwarf if not rival the Great Wall of China by comparison. PDF type stuff 0_0



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

JGarret said:

Haha, one more time :P

 

Ironic that Wii Music was one of the main culprits responsible for putting a stop to the Wii´s momentum.


Metroid Other M says hiyee.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans