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RedPikmin95 said:
Interesting about Ryse ^^ Not until launch day ...mmmhhhh....

Could well be a turkey, the embargo has nothing to do with that though. MS have spread it out so we get something every day.

Ryse is thursday sorry not friday.



 

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If I were to rate the 8th generation console launches, the Wii U would come in first followed by the Xbox One and then the PS4. I believe variety in software choices is a big factor when determining which console to buy, especially when buying one on launch day. #WiiUnity



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

Fight-the-Streets said:
Regarding the lifetime predictions of the Nintendo Wii U of John Lucas: I give you just one word: CHINA! In China, only since recently it's offically allowed to sell game consoles. Like everything, the Chinese government will scrutinize every game painstakingly and forbid or censor what they don't like. Guess who of the big 3 is the least harmless and therefore will be favoured by the government (don't underestimate this power)? It's Nintendo. It will take time. Probably not before 2020 they will start to sell big numbers over there. At a time, when we already play with the 9th generation. But the 9th generation will not be available in China by then or would be too expensive for the majority anyway. Please remember that China has a population of over 1.3 billion!

The same is true for India (current population: over 1.2 billion). Although they have an open democracy there, traditional (religious) rules still determine the life. Nintendo with its family friendly reputation will be favoured there.

What is true for India is also true for other evolving Asian countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and Philippines.

Whatever will happen in the evolving (East-)Asian market, one thing is for sure: Microsoft will be the BIG LOSER! Although there's big cultural difference, rivalry and even historical burdening hate between some of the (East-)Asian countries, there was always something like the "East-Asian Alaya Consciousness". I don't wont to philosophize about that but in context it simply means: X-Box (all generations) is not sold by Japanese = X-Box is not sold by all (East-) Asians!

Ever heared about the BRICS states? The term stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. According to economists worldwide these are the 5 countries which will have the biggest economical leap in the next years. I already commented about two of them, China and India, for the other three, Brazil, Russia and South Afirca it's hard to predict if Nintendo will be on top there or Sony or even Microsoft. But in any case, Nintendo will add some nice numbers there in the future. In Brazil they already have a huge price advantage with the Nintendo Wii U over Play Station 4 and X-Box One.

If you think about all that deeply, suddenly John Lucas lifetime predictions for the Nintendo Wii U aren't insane anymore.

Ah, China and India, the very same two nations that were going to help the Wii sell 500 million units, or 240 million at the very least. We saw how that turned out. And if you think the Chinese will blindly embrace a Japanese console like that, you have another thing coming, there is great friction between Japan and China, both on the official side and among the population.

India just aren't going anywhere very soon, their ancient caste system, export of educated talent, massive social struggles and inhibiting religious societial traits as well as a partitioned economy and culture makes this a terrible market for a console.

Also, fun fact; do you know which of the big three has the longest (and damn near only) reach into developing markets? I'll offer you a hint; it's not Nintendo. Developing markets purchase the most viable alternative from the previous generation(s) of hardware, this is all but obvious all market analysis and goes for consoles, phones, cars, PC gear, TV's and even clothes. One could say that they're one step behind fashion at all times.

Stop dreaming about China and India being the magical deus-ex machina to lift Nintendo (or anyone else) into the lead with amazing sales. Developing countries won't help much either, for the above mentioned reasons. Let's see what 2014 brings, if the Wii U's momentum plummets back to 2013 or slightly above 2013 levels, there is real cause for worry. Heck; even if it doubles the sales, it will still only enter the esteemed ranks of the mediocre.



WiiU dropping in Japan STILL, isn't the holiday boost kicking in now??

WW sales this week will still be below 100k, there will be 7 more weeks left of the year.

That's 1.142m a week starting next week to reach 12m.

850k a week to reach 10m.



 

Seece said:
WiiU dropping in Japan STILL, isn't the holiday boost kicking in now??

WW sales this week will still be below 100k, there will be 7 more weeks left of the year.

That's 1.142m a week starting next week to reach 12m.

850k a week to reach 10m.


No, no, the holiday boost is late this year. Maybe its drunk or something.

Also, take a look at this, should be popular among the chart and graph fantasts of the 7th gen;

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=160052



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Mummelmann said:
Seece said:
WiiU dropping in Japan STILL, isn't the holiday boost kicking in now??

WW sales this week will still be below 100k, there will be 7 more weeks left of the year.

That's 1.142m a week starting next week to reach 12m.

850k a week to reach 10m.


No, no, the holiday boost is late this year. Maybe its drunk or something.

Also, take a look at this, should be popular among the chart and graph fantasts of the 7th gen;

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=160052


Haha, the most hilarious thing is Zero and Lucas expect this.



No that is not a exaggeration.



 

Mummelmann said:

Ah, China and India, the very same two nations that were going to help the Wii sell 500 million units, or 240 million at the very least. We saw how that turned out. And if you think the Chinese will blindly embrace a Japanese console like that, you have another thing coming, there is great friction between Japan and China, both on the official side and among the population.
India just aren't going anywhere very soon, their ancient caste system, export of educated talent, massive social struggles and inhibiting religious societial traits as well as a partitioned economy and culture makes this a terrible market for a console.
Also, fun fact; do you know which of the big three has the longest (and damn near only) reach into developing markets? I'll offer you a hint; it's not Nintendo. Developing markets purchase the most viable alternative from the previous generation(s) of hardware, this is all but obvious all market analysis and goes for consoles, phones, cars, PC gear, TV's and even clothes. One could say that they're one step behind fashion at all times.
Stop dreaming about China and India being the magical deus-ex machina to lift Nintendo (or anyone else) into the lead with amazing sales. Developing countries won't help much either, for the above mentioned reasons. Let's see what 2014 brings, if the Wii U's momentum plummets back to 2013 or slightly above 2013 levels, there is real cause for worry. Heck; even if it doubles the sales, it will still only enter the esteemed ranks of the mediocre. (end of quote)

That's why I wrote not before 2020. And I also wrote about the differences of the different Asian countries. Believe me, I know that China and Japan are not quite on friendly terms, it's one of the many Asian topics I've studied. But technology is free from emotions and the Chinese love Japanese technology but they will refuse the X-Boxes because there's one part of the mindset which is almost identical among all East Asian cultures. It's the same mindset which unites Europeans and North Americans in certain things. But enough of the ethnology lesson.

And by the way, I neither agreed nor disagreed with John Lucas prediction. I just said it's not insane if you consider all eventualities.



Fight-the-Streets said:
Mummelmann said:

Ah, China and India, the very same two nations that were going to help the Wii sell 500 million units, or 240 million at the very least. We saw how that turned out. And if you think the Chinese will blindly embrace a Japanese console like that, you have another thing coming, there is great friction between Japan and China, both on the official side and among the population.
India just aren't going anywhere very soon, their ancient caste system, export of educated talent, massive social struggles and inhibiting religious societial traits as well as a partitioned economy and culture makes this a terrible market for a console.
Also, fun fact; do you know which of the big three has the longest (and damn near only) reach into developing markets? I'll offer you a hint; it's not Nintendo. Developing markets purchase the most viable alternative from the previous generation(s) of hardware, this is all but obvious all market analysis and goes for consoles, phones, cars, PC gear, TV's and even clothes. One could say that they're one step behind fashion at all times.
Stop dreaming about China and India being the magical deus-ex machina to lift Nintendo (or anyone else) into the lead with amazing sales. Developing countries won't help much either, for the above mentioned reasons. Let's see what 2014 brings, if the Wii U's momentum plummets back to 2013 or slightly above 2013 levels, there is real cause for worry. Heck; even if it doubles the sales, it will still only enter the esteemed ranks of the mediocre. (end of quote)

That's why I wrote not before 2020. And I also wrote about the differences of the different Asian countries. Believe me, I know that China and Japan are not quite on friendly terms, it's one of the many Asian topics I've studied. But technology is free from emotions and the Chinese love Japanese technology but they will refuse the X-Boxes because there's one part of the mindset which is almost identical among all East Asian cultures. It's the same mindset which unites Europeans and North Americans in certain things. But enough of the ethnology lesson.

And by the way, I neither agreed nor disagreed with John Lucas prediction. I just said it's not insane if you consider all eventualities.

How many people is WiiU available too? 900m Americas, 800m Europe, Japan 130m, 500m elsewhere? Probably close to 2.5B. Yet it's trending to sell around 25 - 40m lifetime. How is making it available to the rest of the 4.5b going to add more than 200m to the tally, especially when those are countries that are either poor (India) or not interested (China). Just because there are a billion people in China doesn't mean 200 million are going to go buy it. There are 310mill in the US and the thing has struggled to sell over 1m in a year.



 

12 million Wii U's sold by December 31, 2013.

Well this isn't happening. I could have told you that 3 months ago but now it's pretty much confirmed. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Dv8thwonder said:
If I were to rate the 8th generation console launches, the Wii U would come in first followed by the Xbox One and then the PS4. I believe variety in software choices is a big factor when determining which console to buy, especially when buying one on launch day. #WiiUnity


Just going off of exclusives, Wii U had 2D mario, 3Dland, and Zombiu. I'd put that on par with the XBONE with Dead Rising 3, Forza, and Ryse.

 

Personally I've enjoyed Knack more than any Wii U title to date, but I understand that's a very uncommon opinion ;)

Also wii u did 82k this week. Front page isn't updated but it's in the chartz.