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Will the Wii U be a success?

yes 231 70.43%
 
no 97 29.57%
 
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oniyide on 29 July 2013
happydolphin said:
oniyide said:

you said wiimote which is a motion device is it not? and the gamepad isnt really evolving anything they just took the DS concept and moved it to a console and guess what? Didnt work

the PS didnt have weaker graphics than N64? News to me.

It doesn't matter, I didn't say motion controls, I said value-adds (to input devices). Whether it worked or not doesn't matter, since you said it yourself the N64 got beat by the playstation though it had weaker graphics.

Right? Tie yourself out of that knot lol.


are you high? you said the PS1 didnt have weaker graphics, it did fact. fix yourself.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 29 July 2013
happydolphin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo needed third parties to beat Sega. So what? 

Graphics are a natural element to videogames. It seems to frustrate you that high end graphics dont matter to Nintendo because they like to keep their costs low and profits high. You're discounting them but for all the wrong reasons. Without graphics you have no primary visual and this goes all the way back to pong. Pixels, the visual element...is graphics. You're knocking the competition just because Nintendo doesn't excell with it.

Sony is an entertainment brand that owns movie houses of course they are going to try to dazzle an audience with the best spectacle they can, but sometimes its needed for a great story and Last of Us proved it. Hell...they proved it with barely any story in SOTC. The gameplay was the story...and what a beautiful one it was in deed. Sony takes chances. Thats just how it is.

@bold. So are input methods. Which is the gimmick, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. You call evolutions in input methods gimmicks, I call graphical evolutions gimmicks. Ultimately, it's just our stupid opinions and nobody cares. The reality though is that words like gimmick make you sound like a clown. It's better if neither you nor I use them.

@2. Tetris, a game with 0 story, propelled the gameboy to stardom. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


A gimmick is not in the eye of the beholder it is what is passing pleasure. Its a fleeting trick or fad that is used to gain popularity and then fades off into mediocrity. Graphics are the backbone of videogames. Tetris...has graphics. pixels....mathematical inputs...its no gimmick. Graphics are not subjective and ultimately comes down to math  and science and wielded by artistic talent but beauty....beauty is completely subjective.



Locknuts on 29 July 2013

There are just so many multiplayer options. In fact I just thought of one then: 2 vs 2 online multiplayer (2 players on each Wii U, one with the gamepad RTS style, the other with maybe a FPS or TPS viewpoint. I wish someone would make a game like that. Think ZombiU, but better and with more depth.

In short, if the console realises it's potential, it will sell. If not, it will have a really rough time.



happydolphin on 29 July 2013
NightDragon83 said:
happydolphin said:

@bold. So are input methods. Which is the gimmick, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. You call evolutions in input methods gimmicks, I call graphical evolutions gimmicks. Ultimately, it's just our stupid opinions and nobody cares. The reality though is that words like gimmick make you sound like a clown. It's better if neither you nor I use them.

@2. Tetris, a game with 0 story, propelled the gameboy to stardom. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Kinda helps when you pack in an addictive game with your handheld and slap an affordable price on the whole package, doesn't it?

Kinda sells the console, doesn't it?



oniyide on 29 July 2013

I think what STAGE is trying to say, is graphics keep getting better and the fact is they are important to the overall thing. Stuff like motion controls got real popular and just dropped in popularity. they dont really remain in the spotlight, how else would someone explain Ninty themselves putting it to the backburner. ANd stuff like the gamepad, 3d hasnt taken off at all.



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happydolphin on 29 July 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:

A gimmick is not in the eye of the beholder it is what is passing pleasure. Its a fleeting trick or fad that is used to gain popularity and then fades off into mediocrity. Graphics are the backbone of videogames. Tetris...has graphics. pixels....mathematical inputs...its no gimmick. Graphics are not subjective and ultimately comes down to math  and science and wielded by artistic talent but beauty....beauty is completely subjective.

Yes, and it also requires a controller to dictate input, ergo the d-pad. Controllers, like graphics, are an integral (read backbone) part of gaming. To call either a gimmick is retarded, hence my use of it for something as fundamental as graphics while you use it for something as fundamental as inputs, to show how silly things get when you're silly.



S.T.A.G.E. on 29 July 2013
happydolphin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

A gimmick is not in the eye of the beholder it is what is passing pleasure. Its a fleeting trick or fad that is used to gain popularity and then fades off into mediocrity. Graphics are the backbone of videogames. Tetris...has graphics. pixels....mathematical inputs...its no gimmick. Graphics are not subjective and ultimately comes down to math  and science and wielded by artistic talent but beauty....beauty is completely subjective.

Yes, and it also requires a controller to dictate input, ergo the d-pad. Controllers, like graphics, are an integral (read backbone) part of gaming. To call either a gimmick is retarded, hence my use of it for something as fundamental as graphics while you use it for something as fundamental as graphics, to show how silly things get when you're silly.


How many years have you played videogames?



happydolphin on 29 July 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:

How many years have you played videogames?

All my life. I'm 28. What about you?



NightDragon83 on 29 July 2013
happydolphin said:
NightDragon83 said:
happydolphin said:

@bold. So are input methods. Which is the gimmick, it's all in the eyes of the beholder. You call evolutions in input methods gimmicks, I call graphical evolutions gimmicks. Ultimately, it's just our stupid opinions and nobody cares. The reality though is that words like gimmick make you sound like a clown. It's better if neither you nor I use them.

@2. Tetris, a game with 0 story, propelled the gameboy to stardom. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Kinda helps when you pack in an addictive game with your handheld and slap an affordable price on the whole package, doesn't it?

Kinda sells the console, doesn't it?

Kinda like the motion control gimmick with the Wii, right?  Take away the motion controls in Wii Sports and do you think it sells even 1/100th of what it did?



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

S.T.A.G.E. on 29 July 2013
happydolphin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

How many years have you played videogames?

All my life. I'm 28. What about you?


Then objectively speaking graphics are not a gimmick...you've been watching the evolution and not regressing nature of graphics.Nintendo may have popularlized videogames but Sony took it a step further, thats all. Microsoft made PC gaming popular on consoles. You just like Nintendos style of doing things.