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Lol I have been needing a job...



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painmaster212 said:
You would think though a place like Mcdonalds which brings in well over $30 billion a year could stand to pay out abit more to their employees. 

Many franchise restaurants work the following (least that I have experience with).  You open an "X" and pay a royalty to operate as that establishment and abide by their standards.

My point is most people who own the restaurants are not raking in millions (many actually lose money) and it would be them that would be hit well before executives at head quarters.  So, if you're willing to play the long game, endure employment loss and see business shut down, yeah, after a while corporate would adjust policies.  Question is would the general public be willing to pay double the amount at those locations? My guess is not so much.



Times like this I wish I could go back in time and grab Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek. Find these manipulating jerks who take ignorant people and pump their brains full of this mush. Proceed to do a old fashion Austrian School yard beat down.

This whole #$%^ing country seemed to skip out on Economics 101 for the love of God!



spurgeonryan said:
15 dollars is idiotic. They place it that high so there is some wriggle room, if mcdonalds doe snot just fire them and hire someone else.

 

That's what the Golden Arches should do. Its ENTRY level work, that means ANYONE can fill it and if they took a simple class in economics they'd understand that salary and wages are paid based on the available pool of prospects.  The larger pool the less you pay, the more exclusive the pool the greater the salary/wage

Why is this so hard for people to understand?



spurgeonryan said:
Soleron said:
spurgeonryan said:
Why do they need higher wages? For doing what? Are they charging extra for cumming on my triple burger?

On their current pay, they currently don't earn enough to live (house, utilities, transport, food) without working a second job or getting handouts from the state.


why is that any of our problem?

 

they made the poor choices in life. they stand there and flip a burger patty and repeat. why do they need more than minimum wage? they did not work hard in schoolb or did drugsb or got kidsb or etc. get a second job then. you pay for your choices in life.

Because you're paying for it anyway. Let's say half of americans buy mcdonalds burgers.

Currently it's: burger - $1. (Buyer) federal tax spent to subsidise worker - $.20 (All Americans)

Ideally it'd be burger - $1.40 (Buyer) federal tax spent to subsidise worker - $0 (All Americans)

You see, all Americans are paying mcdonalds to make burgers whether they buy burgers or not. That's NOT fair. All of the cost to make a burger should be on the burger.

This is purely pragmatic, I believe the economy would be more efficient without that tax subsidy.

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On getting a second job: do you realise how detrimental to society working 60 or 80 hours is? The state ends up picking up the tab for their emergency medical care from stress/poor diet related conditions caused by having no break. Their kids don't get the support they need to get a good education. They fall out of the workforce at 45 with chronic illness. I promise you it's not economically viable in the long term.

Literally raising the cost of a burger by like 10% would save society and YOU a lot of money in the long run.



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Congrats to all you people on strike that will lose their job, and be replaced by a 15 year old more than happy to work for 9 an hour. Nice move...

No one ever said "I want to be a McDonald's cook when i grow up"



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McDonald's *acknowledged* on a website that the only way someone could make a living off of their restaurants was by taking a second job (assuming McDonald's even gives you 40 hours), and if they got all their food money from SNAP and paid nothing to heat their apartments, as well as an insanely low rent.

They have no grounds upon which to argue against these people.



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The "get a second job" thing is ridiculous when most companies want you to work the same hours. It sure as heck ain't as easy as just telling them when you want to work.

What a lot of people seem to be missing is that full time positions are going away. It's so much better for a company to juggle two part timers instead. The benefits are not as expensive and they don't have to worry nearly as much about overtime or undertime. Where I work, they just split another full time position into part time.

As far as it being an entry level position, that would be fine except for the fact that many people with experience and/or degrees are having to take "entry level" part time jobs just to survive.



Cubedramirez said:
spurgeonryan said:
15 dollars is idiotic. They place it that high so there is some wriggle room, if mcdonalds doe snot just fire them and hire someone else.

 

That's what the Golden Arches should do. Its ENTRY level work, that means ANYONE can fill it and if they took a simple class in economics they'd understand that salary and wages are paid based on the available pool of prospects.  The larger pool the less you pay, the more exclusive the pool the greater the salary/wage

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Because some people have to make a living off of that, and dignity is more valuable than private property.



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Derixs said:
Congrats to all you people on strike that will lose their job, and be replaced by a 15 year old more than happy to work for 9 an hour. Nice move...

No one ever said "I want to be a McDonald's cook when i grow up"

That's only because the US has idiotic workers' rights laws.

I cannot fathom the American attitude to unions. Is it a vast overreaction to the automobile thing? is $.10 extra on a burger so absolutely unthinkable? Can you not empathise with someone in that position?