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which will sell the most in 2014?

Wii U 356 33.87%
 
Playstation 4 608 57.85%
 
Xbox One 85 8.09%
 
Total:1,049

I'd say Wii U is the best bet at this stage, with a price cut to sub $300 inbound and MarioKart out in the spring to boost the slow season. XBOne at $500 is much too expensive to be a volume seller, PS4 will really have to capture imaginations and hype to sell at $400-$500. Most games for the newer systems are already available on PS360, and the exclusives aren't really system-movers.

So for now I'll say Wii U. The Nintendo really needs a Zelda, EA support and a new casual title to do really well in 2014 though. At least one of the unannounced titles from Nintendo 1st party also needs to be fun and charming and appeal to a casual audience, and make the Gamepad look cool. If these things happen it should be a very good year for Wii U, if not it should still do OK and probably sell better than the pricier PS4 and XB1.



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landguy1 said:
errorpwns said:
landguy1 said:
Here's my guess for 2014: I voted PS4

wiiU = 6 million
PS4 = 8 million
XBone = 7 million

Why?

wiiU = Games will no longer help, the massive casual audience sees no reason to buy the wiiU, they already have an ipad or kindle and don't get the reason to get a wiiU. 6 million may be too strong of an estimate.

PS4 = I don't think the PS4 will lead in the long term, but in the short term they have a price advantage and they will probably ship more units globally than M$ plans to or can. Sony is winning 2014 by default rather than great planning.

XBone = Likely will have a limited amount of units shipped in 2014, and the limited launch globally. Small launch + high price = somewhat poor sales. The one thing that M$ can do is create bundles and take a loss if they feel they are falling behind too far sales wise. We have seen it in the past how they work with resellers to give them kickbacks to include a fee controller or charge kit. Or they can bundle Live for free the first year. But the other option that i have read somewhere is how M$ plans to subsidize the price of the XBone to buyers who sign up for multiple years of Live. They did it with the 360 and i think this is how they plan to compete with the PS4 on price.

Games won't help a console sell? What?

I assume you mean the wiiU.  Games can't fix the problem for this system.  The wiiU will continue to sell slowly, as the core gamers and the few impulse buyers pick them up.  But, the majority of the casual market has moved on to tablets and smartphones.  I know that the majority of people who post on this site have strong connections to mario or zelda.  The problem is that most of the rest of the world doesn't care about those gaems anymore.  Those games sold well on the wii because of the large install base had to buy something due to the lack of 3rd party support.  I just don't believe that the majority of cauals are going to go out of their way to get a wiiU to play mario cart or zelda.  Had the wiiU brought the next gen graphics and matched the power of the PS4/XBone, i think people could say that they would buy it to play mario and COD.


Mario Kart is one game I think can make a difference. The key thing to remember is that consoles will still be a compelling purchase for parents, you're not gonna buy your kids an Ipad, and even if you did its not like you'd be able to enjoy it together as a family. Nintendo just needs to remind people of this. 



errorpwns said:
landguy1 said:
Here's my guess for 2014: I voted PS4

wiiU = 6 million
PS4 = 8 million
XBone = 7 million

Why?

wiiU = Games will no longer help, the massive casual audience sees no reason to buy the wiiU, they already have an ipad or kindle and don't get the reason to get a wiiU. 6 million may be too strong of an estimate.

PS4 = I don't think the PS4 will lead in the long term, but in the short term they have a price advantage and they will probably ship more units globally than M$ plans to or can. Sony is winning 2014 by default rather than great planning.

XBone = Likely will have a limited amount of units shipped in 2014, and the limited launch globally. Small launch + high price = somewhat poor sales. The one thing that M$ can do is create bundles and take a loss if they feel they are falling behind too far sales wise. We have seen it in the past how they work with resellers to give them kickbacks to include a fee controller or charge kit. Or they can bundle Live for free the first year. But the other option that i have read somewhere is how M$ plans to subsidize the price of the XBone to buyers who sign up for multiple years of Live. They did it with the 360 and i think this is how they plan to compete with the PS4 on price.

Games won't help a console sell? What?

The gamecube had great titles but could only manage 20m. Theres alot to take consideration of, including the competition.

Games will obviosuly help the Wii U but they might not transform its fortunes. "Help" could mean the console managing 6mil this year instead of 5. Still not a success.

 



 

Sony will beat Nintendo just because their formula for a console is far more balanced than Nintendo's. Nintendo relies on a narrow range of franchises to sell the entire platform tied to mediocre third party support and out of step hardware. The Wiimote's insane success masked a lot of the problems Nintendo had with the console market, but now they're coming back to roost.

I just think more Mario doesn't address the main actual problem the Wii U has, which is that this crowd:

Ain't coming back. The 20-something hipster crowd before they got their smartphones was a huge driver of the Wii, and the Wii was the "hip" fun thing to have for a few years with Wii Sports for house parties and get togethers.

The Wii Fit soccer mom crowd ain't coming back either, diet/excercise fads are called fads for a reason. In all honesty a light jog around one's neighborhood for 10-15 minutes a day is probably a better workout than standing on a balance board.

I think as well the last few years of the Wii were handled incredibly poorly and a lot of people who were enthused by the early days of the system left it gathering dust the last few years.

These are Nintendo's main problems, and no amount of Mario is going to fix it IMO. Mario Kart may be tempting to some but without the Wii Sports/Fit craze I think a lot of casuals are going to pass. They played MK already on their Wii and the new one is basically the similar game just now with prettier graphics.

This is the audience Nintendo is probably more likely speaking to, but even this guy is a bit of a stubborn sell for Nintendo because this guy's accustomed to not paying a lot for Nintendo hardware and knows they cut the 3DS price quickly so he is standing pat. But Nintendo will eventually win this crowd over, just a matter of time.

Nintendo simply just has niche appeal in the console ranks when stripped of the casual gaming safety blanket. Sony/MS are just more mainstream, have more kinds of games in different genres, better marketing, far better developer support. One developer, no matter how good they are can't make up for the entire third party community. It's a formula that simply can't compete in the long run, or even in the short run IMO unless it's tied to some kind of Wiimote/Wii Sports phenomenon, which the Wii U doesn't have.



teigaga said:
Flanneryaug said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Flanneryaug said:
Probably the Wii U. The PS4 and Xbox One will struggle post launch, just like every other 8th generation console has.


No...they wont struggle like Nintendo has. Nintendo had content and marketing issues post launch. If it wasnt the Wii they didnt care.

I don't know about marketing issues, because it is too early to tell if Sony and Microsoft's marketing will be effective or not, but I'm sure that both will have content issues. Both have no huge system sellers coming out until at least holiday 2014.

Witcher 3 will be a next gen system seller, that may come as early as Q2. 

Individually both xbox and PS4 have some decent titles around for Q1/Q2

Xbox One- Kinect Sports Rivals, Titan Fall, Project Spark

PS4: Infamous:Second Son, possibly The Order 1886 and yet to be anounced titles.

Also it should be noted that a game doesn't need to be next gen exclusive to be a system seller. Just look at what Toukiden done for the Vita in Japan. 

Elder scrolls online is also a system seller considering how well skyrim sold and it is coming q1 2014. 



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I voted ps4, unless the wii-u gets a price cut.



Soundwave said:
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If you really believe all that you're saying then how bout that bet?

PDF said:
People thinking that the WiiU will be on top in 2014 must be really pessimistic about the future of the videogame industry.


How'd you come to that conclusion?

Einsam_Delphin said:
Soundwave said:
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If you really believe all that you're saying then how bout that bet?


What's the bet?



Incubi said:
landguy1 said:
errorpwns said:
landguy1 said:
Here's my guess for 2014: I voted PS4

wiiU = 6 million
PS4 = 8 million
XBone = 7 million

Why?

wiiU = Games will no longer help, the massive casual audience sees no reason to buy the wiiU, they already have an ipad or kindle and don't get the reason to get a wiiU. 6 million may be too strong of an estimate.

PS4 = I don't think the PS4 will lead in the long term, but in the short term they have a price advantage and they will probably ship more units globally than M$ plans to or can. Sony is winning 2014 by default rather than great planning.

XBone = Likely will have a limited amount of units shipped in 2014, and the limited launch globally. Small launch + high price = somewhat poor sales. The one thing that M$ can do is create bundles and take a loss if they feel they are falling behind too far sales wise. We have seen it in the past how they work with resellers to give them kickbacks to include a fee controller or charge kit. Or they can bundle Live for free the first year. But the other option that i have read somewhere is how M$ plans to subsidize the price of the XBone to buyers who sign up for multiple years of Live. They did it with the 360 and i think this is how they plan to compete with the PS4 on price.

Games won't help a console sell? What?

I assume you mean the wiiU.  Games can't fix the problem for this system.  The wiiU will continue to sell slowly, as the core gamers and the few impulse buyers pick them up.  But, the majority of the casual market has moved on to tablets and smartphones.  I know that the majority of people who post on this site have strong connections to mario or zelda.  The problem is that most of the rest of the world doesn't care about those gaems anymore.  Those games sold well on the wii because of the large install base had to buy something due to the lack of 3rd party support.  I just don't believe that the majority of cauals are going to go out of their way to get a wiiU to play mario cart or zelda.  Had the wiiU brought the next gen graphics and matched the power of the PS4/XBone, i think people could say that they would buy it to play mario and COD.

Most likely you're nothing but a stealth troll. But if you're not you're in real need of a reality check, couse your post is nothing more than pure bullshit.

So the short answer for you is that if anyone disagrees with your OPINION, they are trolls and full of shit?  Nice response and well thought out.