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Forums - Politics Discussion - Trayvon Martin not an innocent kid! George Zimmerman not a racist!

Chris Hu said:
nightsurge said:
Thank you Max King of the Wild. So many people are ignorant of the facts, it's insane! You have provided the additional evidence to support TM was likely high on his "skittles and Arizona Tea and Cough Syrup" or at least had been abusing it recently. You seem to be one of the few people making logical statements based on the facts in the case and not the media's emotional/racial portrayal of it.

Bravo to you, sir :)


You need to some more research Skittles and Watermelon flavored Arizona drink aren't key ingredients.  "Purple Drank" "Lean" or "Sizzurp" is made with Jolly Ranchers and Sprite or Mountain Dew and cough syrup.

Hilarious... All i see in both ingredients is "Sugar candy, sugar drink and cough syrup" Why do you think mountain dew cant be replaced with watermelon or jolly ranchers replaced with skittles? Nov 10th Urban Dictionary: There are many variations and differing usage, but in order to be considered true and unadulterated sizzurp, the above ingredients are necessary. April 2011: Just like good ol' momma's recipe's there exist diversity amonst formulations. The candy and drink are irrelevant in getting the desired effect. People aren't going to be like "Wait man... this wont get us high we cant use it." Variations of homemade drugs are very common

All I know is that in the autopsy report it mentions abnormalties to a 17 year olds liver that is due to abuse of the liver. I havent seen the text meesages the video claims myself but if those are in fact true (like the autopsy report was) then I would have no trouble believeing he was using those ingredients for the drink. However, I don't care about that really. I care more about him getting in fights that I have read in numerous reports when the texts were first released.



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Max King of the Wild said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Max King of the Wild said:


Provoking cops? lol hilarious... you mean the cop harrassing his friend at a bar legally without identifying himself and GZ didnt know what was going on and pushed the guy off his friend. The charges were dropped for good reason. He would have been found not guilty for that as well

 

Look at you getting offended. You're really invested into proving the guy is squeaky clean aren't you?

More like trying to prove people are pulling "facts" out of their ass and really have no clue what they are talking about

Guilty or not in the eyes of people, if you believe in a god Zimmerman will answer to that dude. Only he, Zimmerman and Trayvon know what happened keep your emotions out of the issue. You're looking for someone to attack and I am not going to continue this with you.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

Guilty or not in the eyes of people, if you believe in a god Zimmerman will answer to that dude. Only he, Zimmerman and Trayvon know what happened keep your emotions out of the issue. You're looking for someone to attack and I am not going to continue this with you.

We have enough information from the evidence to be able to come to a conclusion of what happened that night. Is it 100% accurate? No, but niether would Trayvons account if he were alive. However, the evidence supports Zimmermans story as testified by almost every person who was called during the trial (even the prosecutions witnesses).



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Max King of the Wild said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Look at you getting offended. You're really invested into proving the guy is squeaky clean aren't you?

More like trying to prove people are pulling "facts" out of their ass and really have no clue what they are talking about

Guilty or not in the eyes of people, if you believe in a god Zimmerman will answer to that dude. Only he, Zimmerman and Trayvon know what happened keep your emotions out of the issue. You're looking for someone to attack and I am not going to continue this with you.

Actually, I think it's the other way around; the race baiters here are looking to 'attack' his arguments. Only one thing: they aren't presenting facts.



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Torillian said:
 

But to me this means that he shouldn't be playing cops and robbers with a gun.  If he can't get out of a situation like that without someone winding up dead he either shouldn't have the gun or shouldn't be getting into the situation.  Give the guy a tazer and he can get himself out of being beaten to death just fine and if he gets shot with a gun from far off he was probably fucked anyway.  


Sounds like you are saying that the Second Amendment should no longer be  applicable in this modern day and age of multi-round magazines and quick-loading guns.  Are you saying the right to keep and bear arms is too volatile/life-threatening in the 21st century, whereas tasers are acceptable, along the line of a slap on the wrist?

Are you saying that one should only be permitted to carry a taser and not a gun?  Zimmerman chose to carry a gun and not a taser - and the jury agreed with his decision.  Were they wrong in their judgment?

Is a criminal more likely to carry a gun or a taser?  If someone points a gun at you, would you point your taser at them?



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nightsurge said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrp8A2x2oN4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Someone please embed. I'll update later with a breakdown of the main points for people that don't want to watch the video.


cool video , some good points, some which are just complete speculation. Regardless of opinions of both people as shown by the media this case is over and the court ruled in favour of zimmerman. Can't complain about someone shooting another person in a country which threatens civil war if you try to take someones guns away. The people trying to make this horrible event into a racial hate crime should all be locked up imo, the media included.



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Nighthawk117 said:
Torillian said:
 

But to me this means that he shouldn't be playing cops and robbers with a gun.  If he can't get out of a situation like that without someone winding up dead he either shouldn't have the gun or shouldn't be getting into the situation.  Give the guy a tazer and he can get himself out of being beaten to death just fine and if he gets shot with a gun from far off he was probably fucked anyway.  


Sounds like you are saying that the Second Amendment should no longer be  applicable in this modern day and age of multi-round magazines and quick-loading guns.  Are you saying the right to keep and bear arms is too volatile/life-threatening in the 21st century, whereas tasers are acceptable, along the line of a slap on the wrist?

Are you saying that one should only be permitted to carry a taser and not a gun?  Zimmerman chose to carry a gun and not a taser - and the jury agreed with his decision.  Were they wrong in their judgment?

Is a criminal more likely to carry a gun or a taser?  If someone points a gun at you, would you point your taser at them?


I'm saying Zimmerman specifically should not be allowed to carry a gun because he's already proven that he likes to put himself in harm's way and then shoot his way out when things get dangerous.  A can of pepperspray or a taser would have stopped the dude beating on him just fine without killing him.  

We've already established that Zimmerman was a shitty fighter and I doubt he's a great shot.  If someone is pointing a gun at him I'm sure he's fucked already which I mentioned before.  

So I guess what I'm saying is that people who want to play at police officer should not be carrying guns when they do so because they are untrained and more likely to do something tragic.  



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I personally cant believe anyone would actually support the argument "He shouldnt have gotten out of his car."  Are you serious? This is AMERICA we DONT HAVE TO STAY IN OUR CARS!

When I was 17 and fucking around in someone elses yard and an adult came up to me I would have respected him, not punched him in the face.



If only Zimmerman ignored Martin, not stalk/follow him and shoot him. Martin would still be alive and right now playing his PS3 or XBox 360 or doing whatever he likes to do as a normal teenager. Zimmerman clearly over reacted and used excessive lethal force.



hmmm id like to know how all you guys know trayvon attacked zimmerman first...when zimmerman is the one who approached him armed with a gun off safety and bullet already in the chamber....still trying to figure out how trayvons past has anything to do with zimmerman following him with a loaded gun already cocked off safety....seriously i am disgusted at how people try to bring that shit up like it justifies anything that happened