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Why did MS change everything on the ONE?

The bad press after E3. 78 31.08%
 
Low pre-orders. 142 56.57%
 
They planed this all alon... 19 7.57%
 
Other. Please explain. 12 4.78%
 
Total:251
WagnerPaiva on 25 July 2013
JoeTheBro said:
Low pre-order numbers, even though it was a stupid reason.

Kinect gamers, TV watchers, and multitasking lovers (casuals per-say) are not the type of people that pre-order months before a product's ad campaign is even kicked off. Microsoft wanted to try pulling a Wii yet at the last second chickened out. As a result they are playing catchup with Sony and will fail at least in the beginning.


Well, maybe not,

I believe in redemption and, at least in my eyes, they are back in the game for my money. Sony will get the big bucks from me, but MS is now a option to the future, just keep the cool games coming and my wallet shall smile. 



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

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JoeTheBro on 25 July 2013
WagnerPaiva said:
JoeTheBro said:
Low pre-order numbers, even though it was a stupid reason.

Kinect gamers, TV watchers, and multitasking lovers (casuals per-say) are not the type of people that pre-order months before a product's ad campaign is even kicked off. Microsoft wanted to try pulling a Wii yet at the last second chickened out. As a result they are playing catchup with Sony and will fail at least in the beginning.


Well, maybe not,

I believe in redemption and, at least in my eyes, they are back in the game for my money. Sony will get the big bucks from me, but MS is now a option to the future, just keep the cool games coming and my wallet shall smile. 

Think of Sony back in 2006. They did a great job turning that clusterfuck around yet everything takes time. It wasn't till 2009 that they got back in the game. The vast majority of core gamers take a few years to convert back.



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WagnerPaiva on 25 July 2013
Machiavellian said:

I actually believed that what MS tried to do would have changed the industry.  Right now, digital games are not Sold, Traded Gifted or shared.  MS going down this route would have changed Steam policy and even Sony to do the same.  Since MS messed up the whole stragety and message, they had to drop everything in go back to the basics.

I believe MS just decided to start over, not talk about online or any of the things they mentioned since it only kept negative news circulating and they could not get any traction.  Now it seems they can trickle out their plan piece by piece to gain mindshare again before release to gain some momentum back


The whole reveal was a nightmare, I agree. I remember watching and thinking "What is this crap?  How cares about tv? Watching sports? Seeing crappy remakes of crappy sci-fi series from the 60´s? Jesus Christ¹ Talking to my video game? What is this moronic stupidity? Where is my next gen game machine????"

And I am not that dumb, so I imagine that the same thought was in the mind of most of people. The rest of the features help to set fire in the whole mess, but the bad presentation was a key factor for all the hate.

To me it was the tv stuff that had me hating the whole thing that day. Now I think it is ok, not perfect, but ok.  But man, what a mess, a lesson to us all: How we say it is so much more important of what we say it.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

WagnerPaiva on 25 July 2013
JoeTheBro said:

Well, maybe not,

I believe in redemption and, at least in my eyes, they are back in the game for my money. Sony will get the big bucks from me, but MS is now a option to the future, just keep the cool games coming and my wallet shall smile. 

Think of Sony back in 2006. They did a great job turning that clusterfuck around yet everything takes time. It wasn't till 2009 that they got back in the game. The vast majority of core gamers take a few years to convert back.

True, and we profit from Sony´s disgrace, we won PSN PLUS, UNCHARTED, Heavy Rain, LBP, Last of Us, Killzones, all that stuff. If they were sucessfull from the beginning, we would not be playing free games on Plus, that is for sure.

They had to slave and go the extra mile to get us back, maybe MS will do the same now: More cool exclusives and more free stuff, that is good.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

chapset on 25 July 2013

They love and respect the needs of their consumers



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walsufnir on 25 July 2013

There is a special audience which is very loud, yet not necessarily the wisest. They complained and appeared to be a majority so they had no chance. I still can't decide if this is better or worse.



Nem on 25 July 2013

Bad press, low pre-orders and the fact they can go back to their original design once they fool enough customers.
I dont trust them one bit. If it depended on them consumers, indies and retail would've literally been raped.



walsufnir on 25 July 2013
Nem said:
Bad press, low pre-orders and the fact they can go back to their original design once they fool enough customers.
I dont trust them one bit. If it depended on them consumers, indies and retail would've literally been raped.


So in short you are a part of the answer to the question in the thread-title.



NinjaHanzo on 25 July 2013

Other:

They changed because SONY.

If Sony offers a cheaper console, more powerful, and without those restrictions... Microsoft has nothing to do.

Thanks competition.



Netyaroze on 25 July 2013

Pre-orders.

All they need to do now is cut the price to 399 and give people the ability to unplug the kinect from the system if they feel like it. They dont even have to unbundle Kinect if they are willing to take the loss.