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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Is the Wii U a failure in concept or execution?

 

So?

Concept 75 11.92%
 
Execution 199 31.64%
 
Both 187 29.73%
 
Neither 167 26.55%
 
Total:628

Concept

It's just not very appealing unfortunately.



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Zero999 said:

It's as much of a failure as the 3ds.


lmao cmon dude your joking aye! xD

Can I put this in my signature? plzzz :P



winston000smith said:
I've said it before and will say it again, the concept was wrong from the start.

It may irritate a vocal minority to hear it, but Nintendo tried to ride the gimmickry wave twice while the water of that media sensation has already settled.

IMO innovation should add to the gaming experience without detracting from convenience and ease of use. And without re-directing much needed funds away from power and versatility of hardware towards extravagant, poorly received controller gimmickry.

Many people take Nintendo's recent obsession with innovation for innovation's sake in a very positive light. Unfortunately, I have become a bit more cynical as the years go on. The motivation for the Wii U isn't some great salute to artistic integrity, or some honourable philosophy of gameplay over graphics. It's all about money and speculation. It probably went like this:

Nintendo: "Our last console sold incredibly well, largely due to the publicity generated by the innovative control method, lets do that again"

*Thinks of idea*

Nintendo: "Tablets are popular at the moment, it will generate a lot of publicity if we throw this out early. Get to work on Wii U"
"What shall we throw in it?"
Nintendo: "Oh, any old shit, just get it up to the current standard, maybe a bit higher to give it room to breathe."
"What about third parties, shouldn't we make it easy to program for and power it up a bit to give third parties room to get creative?"
"No, think controller! Make sure the touchscreen looks impressive, emphasize innovation. We are BRAND NINTENDO, fuck everyone else! You just wait, the money will roll in - it will be just like the Wii all over again, don't even change the name - that will be the safest possible bet"...

...*No one's that interested*

Nintendo: "Fuck, what happened!?!? But that worked before! Shit. What are we going to do?".........


........Nintendo: "Yeah, well, so what? We don't even TRY to compete with the others, yeah. We do our OWN thing. Who cares about what third parties are doing? They don't innovate. And you lot don't have Mario so ner ner ner ner ner. You lot are SOOOO MAINSTREAM. I'm taking my ball and going home."

The End.

it has a tradicional controller with a touchscreen, it's a standard generic console without that. but of course many, like you, will simply scream "GIMMICK" about it.



think-man said:
Zero999 said:

It's as much of a failure as the 3ds.


lmao cmon dude your joking aye! xD

Can I put this in my signature? plzzz :P

what part of the irony didn't you get?



Arius Dion said:
Aquietguy said:

A step back??? By your reasonin, the competition is also using an Atari type controller with less buttons.  The pad maybe different from the wii mote but is a step ahead of the traditional controller. 

No, the competition is using the NES prototype as well. Imagine if the competition went with Joysticks this gen. Also keep this in mind, the competition copied the NES/Wii controllers, they haven't copied the Gamepad. 

I'm not sure it is a step ahead of the traditional controller. Its bulky and already outdated

Yes, it's so outdated that Sony and Microsoft are both developing features on their next gen consoles to mimic it.  How is it outdated to add an interface to a console that streamlines your experience with it? 



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I think the main problem with it is that Nintendo made a core/media-centric gaming console instead of an actual successor to the Wii concept. Which is fine, but I think they are trying to market/sell the device using the formula the original Wii used and therein lies the problem. This is a different product and required a more nuanced approach.

It's not a casual console like the Wii was, it's a traditional controller with a touch screen in the middle. Yet Nintendo is kinda trying to sell it as a kids/casual product and it's not resonating with that audience because it's not casual enough for them. And it's not resonating with core players because they all already have a 360/PS3 so this offers them very little that's a noticeable step forward.

It could work as a concept, but it needed more horsepower under the hood to immediately differentiate itself from the PS3/360. It should be able to run any PS3 game at 1080p without working up a sweat for example. Multiplats should all look better than PS3/360 versions with ease.

The tablet screen allows for a lot of media functionality too, they needed to push that more by adding deeper remote control functionality I think. Nintendo TVii needed to be a better service also. The basic TV remote and Youtube stuff is neat, they needed to just push it further though.

And they needed to invest in more core IP like Bayonetta 2 and X (need 3-4 more projects like that in the first 18 months from launch). Nintendo's mistake is thinking third parties will just naturally fill all these gaps, when exclusive titles are the ones that define a platform.

The controller aesthetically needs some work too. It's too fat/bulky and looks too much like a child's tablet. It needed to be sleeker looking, something people would want in their living room and could function as their main remote control.



WHAT !? For how expensive it is !!?? the thing is fucking 300$ only!



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ibrahimman0 said:
WHAT !? For how expensive it is !!?? the thing is fucking 300$ only!

makes 400 and 500 look even more expensive, right?



they didnt do a great job with the concept either, IMHO. A non multi touch device and only one pad can be used per console, I think this is when the eyebrows started to raise.



ibrahimman0 said:
WHAT !? For how expensive it is !!?? the thing is fucking 300$ only!


You're looking at it very limited. For what they are selling it is expensive for alot of people. What is it offering over the comp that is that much different and their prices are cheaper. I can buy a PS3 for 30 bucks less and that COMES with a GTA5 and a 500 gig HD. 300 bucks i get the WIi u basic and that gets me...8GB and nothing else. Now can you see how people would consider it expensive? Not to mention that the hardware itself is only a bit more powerful than consoles that have been on the market for years. The basic fairs a BIT better but its almost 100 bucks more than the PS3 i mentioned and it comes with 32GBs (wow) and...NintyLand, which is not GTA

Point is its not so much about price but about value, and people are not seeing the value of Wii u right now.