Einsam_Delphin said: oniyide said: Einsam_Delphin said: oniyide said: Einsam_Delphin said: Nintendo probably figured most people wouldn't have felt very inclined to buy them since they already had a Tennis and Golf game in the form of Wii Sports. How well did other tennis n golf games do on the Wii? how did other tennis and golf games do on Gamecube? not sure i see your point. Soccer games dont fly off the shelves for the Wii but they made a soccer game didnt they? The Gamecube wasn't bundled with Wii Sports, so I don't see your point.   They made Mario Strikers Charged, though I don't know how much it or other soccer games sold on the Wii. Also, MSC was in development before the Wii came out, and considering Wii Sports, they probably figured if they were gonna make a sports game they should make it one not in Wii Sports. So we are comparing one segment of a sports minigame compilation that was really just a glorified demo disc to a full blown game modes and campaigns? Yeah that makes sense.  Guess people are easily satisfied, far enough. Point taken on Mario Strikers, still doesnt make sense why the other sports games didnt get the same treatment, considering they all sold about the same on GC. ANd no it being in some WiiSports nonsense is not a substitue, especially when those portions arent that great to begin with. Are you Nintendo? No? Then like everyone else you have no idea why Nintendo didn't make those games. My theory may not make sense to you, but it possibly made sense to Nintendo.

are you Nintendo? you're not either? so your theory is just as valid as my theory. It could be just possible they were being a bit lazy. it might not make sense to you, but makes sense to Nintendo.

Because those were included in Wii sports, which almost every single Wii owner has. To the casuals, there is no need to get a tennis game, because they have tennis already, there is no need to get a golf game, they have golf already. I think gamers underestimate just how casual the majority of the Wii userbase is. These games would have sold almost exclusively to Nintendo fans, and they have never gotten close to 10 million before.

nope, if i remember right quite a few people were perplex at the time of announcement. 

saddest part is mario tennis might probably is my personal favorite nintendo franchise.  mario tennis with good motion controls would single handedly sell me a wiiU.   i was really tempted to get a 3DS for it but it just seems kind of a let down without the motion control.

i know all that, and thats kind of my point. It was like well we made money on these half assed efforts, screw actually trying and giving millions of Ninty fans a game they would want to play. 

Im actually glad about your post, what you stated is one of the reasons, why some of the "core" dont take the WIi seriously. 

Its one of the things that sold me on the WIi in the first place, i thought the game would have been a forgone conclusion. Love Mario Tennis as well. If they didnt make it for WIi I dont think they will for WIi U since they need to sell their gamepad and a tennis game is not gonna do it. ANd good on you for having self control and not buying a 3ds for one game, ive played it and its not even all that. im sticking with power tennis for Cube.

They did re-release Mario Power Tennis to the Wii I believe.

1. a re release is not a subsitute for a whole new game. never has never will be. thats like if GOW3 never came out and people were like its ok we got the collection. that dog dont hunt.

2. it wasnt even good. the controls sucked. it was actually worst than the original version.

I'm not sure they ought to be Mario-branded, but with EA Sports blacklisting Nintendo platforms, the company really should make its own dedicated sport games with more depth and character than a Wii Sports compilation. It shouldn't exactly be a sim, but it should have almost as much content as a sim, and it should avoid the pitfalls of EA Sports' better Wii outings.

In particular, don't include a levelling system, or at least tone it down. Most of the complaints of bad WM+ controls were due to the computer adding "noise" to the input to simulate a low skill level when the player starts. This is important when sports skills are simulated with a binary button press, but largely unnecessary when they're derived from infinitely more complicated motion controls. As you learn to swing the wiimote with more accuracy, you'll naturally "level up" without the computer's help.

This was always an issue with me. Especially considering NPC Mario Tennis was the best selling NPC title by far. I can understand not releasing another Mario Tennis after NPC but a Mario Golf would have been an easy 3-5m seller. Well worth the investment. At the very least a NPC Mario Golf would've sold 1-2m. NPC Wave Race also probably would have sold well. And if they had the rights NPC Rogue Squadron Trilogy.

Similarly a Star Fox using the wiimote as a control stick (which was brilliant in games like Sky Crawlers) would have been an obvious choice or Pilot Wings using the wiimote like in Wii Sports Resort (planes). Yet instead Pilot Wings/Star Fox 64/Mario Golf all come out on 3DS instead (which is also fine) but damn, couldn't they at least port them to Wii then?

Honestly, Nintendo leaves so much money lying on the table sometimes its purely baffling.

At least we got Punch Out!