ArnoldRimmer said:
It seems like some hardcore Xbox enthusiasts have problems really understanding the question, so let me rephrase it in my own words:
"As everyone on this website knows, there are many people who are afraid of Kinect spying on them. They find it suspicious that an external device, that can easily be attached and unattached because it has a cable and a connector, must necessarily be connected for the console to work, especially since that was no problem with Xbox 360 and Kinect 1. They find that strange, especially since Microsoft seemingly reacted to these privacy concerns by now allowing the the device to be completely turned off in the settings.
No matter if these fears of Kinect spying on them make any sense or are just paranoia, it cannot be denied that many people are indeed worried about this and may simply not buy the console for that reason. Obviously, a person who does not completely trust Microsoft (if only for the recent reports about Microsoft helping the NSA to access even encrypted emails, Skype calls etc.), will hardly be convinced by an additional software switch built into the same firmware they don't trust, but their fears could easily be dissolved by unplugging the sensor.
So, why didn't Microsoft simply choose the obvious solution, namely to allow for Kinect simply not to be plugged in?"
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Arnie J gets part of it.
These people dont.
Imaginedvl said:
You should stop telling people to do not say anything just because you created the thread or because they are not directly anwering your questions. It is not because you do not like our replies or expect only the ones who have an issue with Kinect being always plug-in to participate that we do not have right to counter your points with ours. You want to state the "problem" you are mentionning in your OP as a fact for everybody and then want anwsers to that. Well before to anwser your question we need to all be on the same page, right? Let us talk and participate or I will report you (me or someone else).
Now, when you said that you can unplug your PC USB Camera, that your phone has a built-in one, etc... It is true but it does not change anything we the fact that you DO NOT unplug them even if you can. So back to the question; what is the big deal with Kinect? You are telling us that it is a problem but are not actually providing any viable reason why and the question from Tuscaniman99 or other people is very valid. Other than complaining for complaining; just enlight us on why is it such a big deal?
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If people will insist on posting pointless stuff, Ill tell them not to post. If they want to actually participate with something useful, by all means start saying useful things.
Cameras on PC's have nothing to do with the thread. Cameras on phones have nothing to do with the thread. People bringing them up are using good old fashioned deflection. Nothing more, nothing less.
I dont want a camera and a microphone recording me while Im playing videogames or watching movies. I want to know why I cant use the console if Kinect breaks. I want to know why if I can turn the camera "off", why I cant unplug it?
You guys are avoiding the question and jumping straight on the defensive with deflection techniques. Its extremely annoying.
Why does Kinect have to be plugged in?
Only tres has come up with something really substantial thus far.
tuscaniman99 said: @Carl2291 Yes your camera is built into your phone but you suck it up and use it. All calls you make can be monitored but you suck it up and use it. Either you will suck it up and purchase an Xbox One at some point or you won't. MS has a strategy with bundling the Kinect and the interface is built around Kinect functions. It can be controlled with a game pad but that is a clunky solution. MS wants to offer new ways to interact with a console.
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I suck it up and use it. Yes. Im not arguing against that. Sometime later down the road, I will do the same with the One.
What Im arguing is, we should have clarification why it has to be plugged in at all times. I want to know why it is required. You people dont have answers. You have nothing worthwhile to add other than "You use other devices!".
I dont give a shit about other devices. This thread isnt about other devices. This thread is about the Xbox One and Kinect. Its about why Kinect simply has to be plugged in at all times. If people cant answer it and instead jump straight to deflection, I think it actually shows their own insecurities.
The sheer fact that the interface can be controlled using the pad automatically stomps your point there. If the dashboard can be navigated with a pad, there is no reason why Kinect has to be plugged in. If the dashboard required Kinect, then I could understand it.
tuscaniman99 said: I don't find it surprising that 99% of the people complaining about having to keep the Kinect plugged in are Sony fans. If it was such a big issue it would be all over media sites and not just certain gamer forums.
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I dont find it surprising that a guy with a Halo avatar is complaining about Sony fans. Come on. Try to be original. Try to actually say something worthwhile.
nightsurge said:
If It all boils down to that last little part and not all the stupid paranoia, why not ask Microsoft instead of forum goers :) seems all forum goers want to talk about is the paranoia crap.
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Microsoft PR over the last few Months has arguably been the worst PR this industry has ever seen. I wouldnt believe an answer I got from them, unless it was in a press release.
This is a forum where discussion is supposed to be had. It seems like a good place to ask the question after we have had people recently complaining about Kinect being bundled.
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Of course there are privacy concerns, but its not the only concern.