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Zero999 on 13 July 2013
curl-6 said:
AZWification said:

X looks better than The Last of Us.

Yes, it does.

But it most likely doesn't push Wii U as far as TLOU/UC2-3 push the PS3.

for a 1 year old console, it really shouldn't push.



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twilight_link on 13 July 2013
Soundwave said:

Nintendo sold Rare and stopped working with Factor 5. I would say that's called "cutting ties".

In the N64 days and the GameCube launch, certainly, people looked at Rare and Factor 5 to deliver the hardware showcase titles visually in the way Naughty Dog does today for the PS3.

Rare in its hey day was basically to Nintendo consoles what Naughty Dog is to the PS3 today, probably bigger actually.


What you wrote are half truths, Nintendo was not interested in purchase of RARE at once so the founders of Rare looked elsewhere, and after M$ offer they sell their stake in the company.

Factor5 as SK was disgusted by Wii so they left Nintendo.



Zero999 on 13 July 2013
ethomaz said:

curl-6 said:

But the Wii U hardware is very capable of producing great looking games, what's missing is the studios who would actually do it.

I shadown edited my comment to make more clear.

"No studio will fix that disadvantage... Wii U hardware is weak... that is a fact but that was not a big issue for others consoles in the past "

When you say "great looking games" you need a time comparision... for example I think Donkey Kong Country a great looking game for 1990 but not for 1995.

Wii U can make great looking games for 2010 but not for 2014... somethink like that... great Studios won't change that.

And graphycs didn't means that the console is goor or bad... if it will have comercial success or not.

Edit - TLOU visual are outdated... great looking game for the late PS3 life but outdated for what PS4/Xbone shows... so everybody is asking a PS4 version of the game

the term "great looking" is absolute, you're misunderstanding with "best for it's time". example, atari games were the best graphics of it's time but it doesn't change the fact they looked like shit.

now we have wii u wich isn't cutting edge for it's time but it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't need to. we reached the diminishing returns point. ps360 can do stunning graphics and wii u goes beyond them. ps4/xone being somewhat stronger won't change how amazing wii u games look.



twilight_link on 13 July 2013

The WiiU is completely new architecture so is not surprising that they only scratched the surface, the Playstation 4 is just custom PC similar to original XBOX.



Play4Fun on 13 July 2013
bananaking21 said:
Play4Fun said:

SMGs are some of the best looking games of the 7th gen, including many PS360 games.Deal with it.

It's only a year by year thing for people like you who only see amount of pixels and textures or polygons or whatever.

People who aren't technical whores see graphics differently, in a less shallow way.

they arent. not even close. deal with it. 

Like I said, technical graphics whores wouldn't see it that way.



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twilight_link on 13 July 2013

There are no graphics whores there are only hypocrites, the HDtwins were hardly HD platforms most games has sub HD resolution, miserable frame-rate, to add to this the Sony fans as most vocal part of the HDtwins community suffered with bad ports, after years and years of self-deception they finally get capable platform, until now the graphics was not important for them as they proclaimed, of course Sony deceived them with unrealistic numbers, showcase of target rendering etc.

So after many generations of self-deception they become graphics whores, what a joke.



Zero999 on 13 July 2013
ninjablade said:
the problem is clearly the wiiu hardware and not the developers, just look at the best looking wiiu games, neverything looks on par with cuurent gen, AA is not better, textures are not better, nothing is really better, and mgs v and GTA5 look so much better then X its not even funny.

bolded: 100% lies. but as usual, look at this:

http://www.gamespot.com/features/xbox-vs-xbox-360-do-you-really-need-hd-6140621/



zarx on 13 July 2013
Play4Fun said:

SMGs are some of the best looking games of the 7th gen, including many PS360 games.Deal with it.

It's only a year by year thing for people like you who only see amount of pixels and textures or polygons or whatever.

People who aren't technical whores see graphics differently, in a less shallow way.

I think you got that backwards non technically minded people see graphics in a much shallower way, they only apreciate graphics on a surface level without apreciating the details of how it looks the way it does and why. A technically minded person apreciates a pretty image the same as anyone (aesthetic differences aside), but they also understand the work that goes into creating the image which adds a whole new depth to their appreciation.

 

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Play4Fun on 13 July 2013
zarx said:
Play4Fun said:

SMGs are some of the best looking games of the 7th gen, including many PS360 games.Deal with it.

It's only a year by year thing for people like you who only see amount of pixels and textures or polygons or whatever.

People who aren't technical whores see graphics differently, in a less shallow way.

I think you got that backwards non technically minded people see graphics in a much shallower way, they only apreciate graphics on a surface level without apreciating the details of how it looks the way it does and why. A technically minded person apreciates a pretty image the same as anyone (aesthetic differences aside), but they also understand the work that goes into creating the image which adds a whole new depth to their appreciation.

 

I don't know why I read these threads anymore


No. non-technically minded people just see the whole picture and appreciate graphics as they are.

Technical whores look for flaws to bitch about.



bananaking21 on 13 July 2013
Play4Fun said:
bananaking21 said:
Play4Fun said:

SMGs are some of the best looking games of the 7th gen, including many PS360 games.Deal with it.

It's only a year by year thing for people like you who only see amount of pixels and textures or polygons or whatever.

People who aren't technical whores see graphics differently, in a less shallow way.

they arent. not even close. deal with it. 

Like I said, technical graphics whores wouldn't see it that way.


yes, just blind nintendo fans would say that SMG is one of the best looking  7th gen games