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Eddie_Raja said:
JEMC said:
Eddie_Raja said:
I run some of my games in SSAA x4 which is essentially running the game in 4k. My 7970 overclocked to perform at 780 levels handles it fine. Like someone else said, you would obviously turn down AA (Or turn it Off) as it isn't needed nearly as much.

 Games I can max out in 4K at 60 FPS include: Borderlands 2 (Unreal Engine 3), Mass Effect 1-3 (Unreal Engine 3), Chivalry (Unreal Engine 3), and All of Valve's Source games.

P.S. Yes it looks beautiful :)

We'll see what happens when games using Unreal Engine 4 start to appear.

And, no disrespect, but the Source engine is not that demanding. It has what, 9-10 years?

Nice catch!  And I never said they are hard to run games (That was kinda my point).  I am saying on one hand yes 4K is harder to run, but on the other hand it is no where near bonecrushing!  In fact I can easily play BF3 and Metro: 2033 at 30 FPS in 4K (But I don't lol as my screen is 1080p and I wouldn't notice the difference).

Actually, you would. Downsampling is a kind of AA. 3840x2160 to 1920x1080 is technically 4XSSAA. It won't be like real 4k though.



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Mohasus said:
Eddie_Raja said:
JEMC said:
Eddie_Raja said:
I run some of my games in SSAA x4 which is essentially running the game in 4k. My 7970 overclocked to perform at 780 levels handles it fine. Like someone else said, you would obviously turn down AA (Or turn it Off) as it isn't needed nearly as much.

 Games I can max out in 4K at 60 FPS include: Borderlands 2 (Unreal Engine 3), Mass Effect 1-3 (Unreal Engine 3), Chivalry (Unreal Engine 3), and All of Valve's Source games.

P.S. Yes it looks beautiful :)

We'll see what happens when games using Unreal Engine 4 start to appear.

And, no disrespect, but the Source engine is not that demanding. It has what, 9-10 years?

Nice catch!  And I never said they are hard to run games (That was kinda my point).  I am saying on one hand yes 4K is harder to run, but on the other hand it is no where near bonecrushing!  In fact I can easily play BF3 and Metro: 2033 at 30 FPS in 4K (But I don't lol as my screen is 1080p and I wouldn't notice the difference).

Actually, you would. Downsampling is a kind of AA. 3840x2160 to 1920x1080 is technically 4XSSAA. It won't be like real 4k though.

Ok ok I know what 4xSSAA is, and I know I would definately notice the difference.  But 60FPS + 4xMSAA > 30FPS + 4xSSAA!   



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I wish they would have tested without aa on also. The fps would have been better.



Eddie_Raja said:

Nice catch!  And I never said they are hard to run games (That was kinda my point).  I am saying on one hand yes 4K is harder to run, but on the other hand it is no where near bonecrushing!  In fact I can easily play BF3 and Metro: 2033 at 30 FPS in 4K (But I don't lol as my screen is 1080p and I wouldn't notice the difference).


I beg to differ, 4k is what, 30% or-there-abouts more pixels than 5760x1080?
And 4k is about 20-30% less pixels than my own screen set-up. (7680x1440)

Essentially, anything less than a couple of high-end cards just won't cut it with the most demanding of games. (The new Metro, Crysis 3 are more demanding than that which is probably a good indicator of where Next-gen is heading!)

Not even Triple Titans are hitting 60fps. :P



Go with a less demanding game however and things don't look so grim, but do take note you still need a $1000+ single GPU to achieve 60fps.


However, what all these games have in common is that they were built for Direct X 9 hardware in mind (Due to consoles) and it's particular nuances, it will be interesting to see how the landscape changes in the next few years and how much Video memory AMD and nVidia throw at the performance problem, perhaps we will see GDDR6 sooner rather than later?



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