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weaveworld on 12 July 2013

Surprised of all the hetero stuff.

But still, yuck. Doesn't tell us he molested anyone though.



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Soundwave on 12 July 2013
Zappykins said:
Soundwave said:
Zappykins said:
 

Oh, no, it was years before that – that when he started to go public about having kids in his bed. I remember people making jokes at the office "I'd let him molest me for 10 million!"  (Yea, they were serious, but it is still a sick joke.)  I think it was common rumor by around 1988 and that was the amount of money that he was rumored to pay the family. (Would be about 20 mill in today's dollars.)

The dad of one of the alleged victims killed himself a few years ago:  http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20320738,00.html

About some of the 24 suspected boys and their families that were paid off: http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00061749.html


To be fair the 24 suspected boys bit turned out to be BS. I believe even Diane Diamond, who's a reporter who hates Michael Jackson and has tried to pin him on these charges since the 90s has called BS on it.

He paid off one family in 1993. That boy I believe shunned his parents, specifically his father. The father killed himself a few years ago.

Jackson fans point to that as the kid being coerced into his parents to make up allegations to get money, but who knows.

To be fair, he paid off a number of kids familes, not just one. And I think he could of molested kids, cook and eat them,  infront of many Jackson fans and they would make up excuses for him.

If you can stomach it, read the transcript from the kid that got him charged. 

I feel really bad for how so many of those kids were treated by the fans. 


I'd have to see a source on that, because officially it was only in '93 that he paid off anyone from what I've read and as what presented in the 2005 trial. 

I'm not saying he was or wasn't guilty, I just would like to see facts.



StreaK on 12 July 2013
Zappykins said:

I'm still bewildered by people that believe he didn't molest children. Outside of all the evidence and the multi-tens of millions he paid several families for hush money. (I think it was about 40 million from what I remember.)

The fact that the District Attorney of Santa Barbara would NEVER charge a major celebrity if they were not sure they could win. They would not risk their job, reputation, and the billions in counter suits for defamation.

And he wasn’t convicted because the little kid’s mom didn’t wash her hair for trail and the jury didn’t like her.

 

Even though he is dead, I am still creeped out by his music, and worst his fans that know what he did and don’t care.

 


Wow, you found some of the greatest music ever created known to mankind....creepy??? Dude, thank the heavens I am not you.



StreaK on 12 July 2013

In the end, here are the REAL facts:

 

No one will ever know the truth about who the heck MICHAEL JACKSON REALLY was. No. One...EVER!

One of the reasons he shot to RIDICULOUS fame is because he was already the world's most famous human being that didn't go on talk shows to talk about himself. Why??? Gee, I could just picture MJ handling himself with Letterman or Leno about his plastic surgeries and skin colour and who knows what else. He's unlike anyone that ever was in the spotlight. People would do ANYTHING to get to know he really was as a person. His closest friends probably didn't even know. Why do people wanna know him??? Because he's F'in awesome!! And why is he F'in awesome??? Because the dude was multitalented - exceptional singer, writer and dancer. He was never seen in ANY romantic relationship with ANYONE (male or female) except in the company of young children. Obviously, this would lead to suspicion. Can't blame these people, really. Look what happened with J.M. Barrie....

MJ took all who he was to his grave. Only HE knew the truth what went down or didn't go down.

The thing is with Michael Jackson....you either like him or not. Never really an inbetween with this guy.The haters will always find a reason to hate on him and make him seem guilty while the lovers will always defend the guy to their dying breath. So who is right? No one has ever really had any REAL, significant, CONCRETE evidence that he molested children. Again, it's this 50/50 thing. Kids defend him and don't defend him. Again, who to believe? Supporters at first said he was innocent only to say he's guilty once he's no longer alive. WTF?

It's like a debate whether or not GOD exists. You will never know. Just like the enigmatic presence of MJ himself his life will always and forever remain a mystery. And personally, I'm content with just leaving it at that. I know in my heart he was innocent. No one will convince me otherwise. We all know that people more than EVER now are after the MJJ fortune. He was always used for his money. ALWAYS. ANd he was so naive and easily taken advantage of. This guy was the EASIEST target for pedophilia. I'll always believe his biggest weakness was his OVER honesty and naivety.

That. Is. All.



Zappykins on 13 July 2013
Soundwave said:
Zappykins said:
Soundwave said:
Zappykins said:
 

Oh, no, it was years before that – that when he started to go public about having kids in his bed. I remember people making jokes at the office "I'd let him molest me for 10 million!"  (Yea, they were serious, but it is still a sick joke.)  I think it was common rumor by around 1988 and that was the amount of money that he was rumored to pay the family. (Would be about 20 mill in today's dollars.)

The dad of one of the alleged victims killed himself a few years ago:  http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20320738,00.html

About some of the 24 suspected boys and their families that were paid off: http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00061749.html


To be fair the 24 suspected boys bit turned out to be BS. I believe even Diane Diamond, who's a reporter who hates Michael Jackson and has tried to pin him on these charges since the 90s has called BS on it.

He paid off one family in 1993. That boy I believe shunned his parents, specifically his father. The father killed himself a few years ago.

Jackson fans point to that as the kid being coerced into his parents to make up allegations to get money, but who knows.

To be fair, he paid off a number of kids familes, not just one. And I think he could of molested kids, cook and eat them,  infront of many Jackson fans and they would make up excuses for him.

If you can stomach it, read the transcript from the kid that got him charged. 

I feel really bad for how so many of those kids were treated by the fans. 


I'd have to see a source on that, because officially it was only in '93 that he paid off anyone from what I've read and as what presented in the 2005 trial. 

I'm not saying he was or wasn't guilty, I just would like to see facts.

Yea, well, I think I have giving you enough information. I confidant that you can research this issue on your own yourself just fine, and feel like your mind is made up and you just want to argue about it and deny things for some reason.

He openly admits to having strangers kids sleep in his bed, his own sister (while granted she is nutty) said he is a child molester – and recently kids that are now adults have come out saying that what did they now realize was wrong.  And people are attacking those victims.  It really disgust me how people treat the victim cause they don’t want have that doubt that they are right about it.

Read the transcripts, it will change how you see him.  It shows him as a sneaky and manipulative person who will say to a child, “Well xxx does this for me, you must not love me as much as they do.”  Get them drunk on wine, and other vile things to have sexual relations with them. 

If you read through, I doubt you will ever be able to see him in the same way.

Here is a bunch more info, but not all the transcripts I was looking for:  http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/inside-michael-jackson-grand-jury

And more info:  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-jackson-paid-23million-buying-2011662

 



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!
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Soundwave on 13 July 2013
Zappykins said:
Soundwave said:
Zappykins said:
Soundwave said:
Zappykins said:
 

Oh, no, it was years before that – that when he started to go public about having kids in his bed. I remember people making jokes at the office "I'd let him molest me for 10 million!"  (Yea, they were serious, but it is still a sick joke.)  I think it was common rumor by around 1988 and that was the amount of money that he was rumored to pay the family. (Would be about 20 mill in today's dollars.)

The dad of one of the alleged victims killed himself a few years ago:  http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20320738,00.html

About some of the 24 suspected boys and their families that were paid off: http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00061749.html


To be fair the 24 suspected boys bit turned out to be BS. I believe even Diane Diamond, who's a reporter who hates Michael Jackson and has tried to pin him on these charges since the 90s has called BS on it.

He paid off one family in 1993. That boy I believe shunned his parents, specifically his father. The father killed himself a few years ago.

Jackson fans point to that as the kid being coerced into his parents to make up allegations to get money, but who knows.

To be fair, he paid off a number of kids familes, not just one. And I think he could of molested kids, cook and eat them,  infront of many Jackson fans and they would make up excuses for him.

If you can stomach it, read the transcript from the kid that got him charged. 

I feel really bad for how so many of those kids were treated by the fans. 


I'd have to see a source on that, because officially it was only in '93 that he paid off anyone from what I've read and as what presented in the 2005 trial. 

I'm not saying he was or wasn't guilty, I just would like to see facts.

Yea, well, I think I have giving you enough information. I confidant that you can research this issue on your own yourself just fine, and feel like your mind is made up and you just want to argue about it and deny things for some reason.

He openly admits to having strangers kids sleep in his bed, his own sister (while granted she is nutty) said he is a child molester – and recently kids that are now adults have come out saying that what did they now realize was wrong.  And people are attacking those victims.  It really disgust me how people treat the victim cause they don’t want have that doubt that they are right about it.

Read the transcripts, it will change how you see him.  It shows him as a sneaky and manipulative person who will say to a child, “Well xxx does this for me, you must not love me as much as they do.”  Get them drunk on wine, and other vile things to have sexual relations with them. 

If you read through, I doubt you will ever be able to see him in the same way.

Here is a bunch more info, but not all the transcripts I was looking for:  http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/inside-michael-jackson-grand-jury

And more info:  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-jackson-paid-23million-buying-2011662

 

The story of the 23/24 payoffs turned out to be bogus:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/03/showbiz/michael-jackson-files/?hpt=en_c2

Even Diane Diamond who hates Michael Jackson admits it.

The 2005 allegations were almost laughable, if you look into the case you'll see why they lost that case on every count easily. IE: the mother claimed the she and her kids were held hostage at Neverland and she was trying to escape on a hot air balloon (this is her story, lol) while reciepts had her in hair salons and other places at that time using Jackson's credit card.

Again, I'm not saying he was or wasn't a molester, but I have actually done some research into it and it's not as cut and dry as people want to make it out to be.