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Forums - Sony Discussion - Tretton: “To Force Every Consumer” To Have a Camera “Ends up Coming up a Little Bit Short”, “It Should be a Choice”

enditall727 on 01 July 2013
NintendoPie said:
enditall727 said:


Well PS Plus IS a choice. You don't have to buy it and it's not forced into the price when buying the console

 

..still would've preferred it to be free though

If you want to play online multi-player it is required. No? (Unless something changed.)


Yea but it's still not required

 

I do see what you're saying though since the online is tied to PS Plus now



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bananaking21 on 01 July 2013
enditall727 said:
NintendoPie said:
enditall727 said:


Well PS Plus IS a choice. You don't have to buy it and it's not forced into the price when buying the console

 

..still would've preferred it to be free though

If you want to play online multi-player it is required. No? (Unless something changed.)


Yea but it's still not required

 

I do see what you're saying though since the online is tied to PS Plus now


but it is required to play online, thats his point. he is saying we dont want to force the consumers by adding the camera, but they are forcing the consumers to buy PS+ if they want to play online



enditall727 on 01 July 2013
bananaking21 said:
enditall727 said:
NintendoPie said:
enditall727 said:


Well PS Plus IS a choice. You don't have to buy it and it's not forced into the price when buying the console

 

..still would've preferred it to be free though

If you want to play online multi-player it is required. No? (Unless something changed.)


Yea but it's still not required

 

I do see what you're saying though since the online is tied to PS Plus now


but it is required to play online, thats his point. he is saying we dont want to force the consumers by adding the camera, but they are forcing the consumers to buy PS+ if they want to play online

Yea i know. That's pretty much what i just said lol



Soonerman on 01 July 2013

BluRay anyone? Sounds to me like they really learned their lesson but they're far from being saints to customers.



VGKing on 01 July 2013

Bundled camera = Good for developers, they can make use of it knowing everyone has one
Bundled camera = Bad for gamers. It drives the cost up of the console and for those who aren't ever going to use it, its just wasted money.

If you can't see this, YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.
Giving people a choice of whether or not they want a camera is GOOD.



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VGKing on 01 July 2013
RolStoppable said:
Tretton is right. Consumers shouldn't be forced to pay for a camera that Sony isn't going to support in any meaningful way.

Exactly. Sony doesn't make kids games, at least not good ones. It's best they stick to what they are good at which is games like The Last of Us.



tuscaniman99 on 01 July 2013

Well when Xbox One gets dropped in price to match the PS4 next year I guess it will be a bonus to have Kinect.



SaberSaurus on 01 July 2013
Nsanity said:
Didn't Sony remove the camera at the last second?


Maybe, hasen't been officialy confirmed yet though. What's your point?



   

Adinnieken on 01 July 2013

Isn't Sony the company that is mandating that every game features remote play for the PSV on PS4? Why is it OK for Sony to mandate companies include PSV cross/remote play for PS4 games, but it isn't OK for Microsoft to include Kinect in the box for a reasonable sum on day one?

Last I knew Microsoft wasn't mandating that gamer studios support Kinect, it's just there if they do decide to use it.



BloodyRain on 01 July 2013
Adinnieken said:
Isn't Sony the company that is mandating that every game features remote play for the PSV on PS4? Why is it OK for Sony to mandate companies include PSV cross/remote play for PS4 games, but it isn't OK for Microsoft to include Kinect in the box for a reasonable sum on day one?

Last I knew Microsoft wasn't mandating that gamer studios support Kinect, it's just there if they do decide to use it.

I believe sony stated that remote play will just work on their side somehow.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/ps4-remote-play-just-happens-no-dev-support-required/

It's prob because some people aren't interested in the kinect and are forced to pay more for a device they don't need for various reasons.