I wanted Vega, but it will be $850 for Vega 64 air cooled here after launch. Smh local stores.....

Now that AMD is finally competitive in the CPU market, you can't build an all AMD powerhouse because their GPUs have fallen behind.

In any case, there's nothing to be sorry about, if you can get a 1080Ti cheaper than Vega, the choice is a no brainer. Faster plus cheaper is always the best option.

Yeah, indeed. The GTX 1080Ti over here between $750-$800 is still fixed price, even restock will be the same, as far as i know Vega is a dated GPU ready. :I

Edit: Oh yeah, as for my 2nd PC, i won't buy brand new GPU, i will install my R9 Fury instead since it's faster than RX 580.

About what?...

http://www.pcgamer.com/crytpocurrency-miners-are-partially-responsible-for-delayed-vega-launch/

You've got to be kidding me!

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-titan-xp-titan-x-385-12-driver-update-massive-performance/

This is why we need competition cause that is just nonsense. It's great that they "unlocked" 3x performance for Titan but really Nvidia? You don't just magically gain 3X performance uplift just by a driver update unless you gimped the card to begin with.

It's so dumb. I want to support AMD but they are behind. I want to support Nvidia but they are doing nonsense like that. Its like rughadshf'lfmlksfd

While I agree with all what you said, I think it's worth mentioning that none of those gains a gaming related:

"In what seems to be a direct response to AMD’s Radeon Vega Frontier edition, the latest 385.12 driver is helping NVIDIA to bring Quadro level performance and features on their Titan series. The driver is specifically meant to improve performance for creative professionals and pro workstation users. According to NVIDIA, the new drivers deliver 3x better performance in applications such as Maya which is a huge increase from the performance level we saw at launch."

Sure, CGI-Quality will be mostly pleased by this upgrade, but most dubass owners of Titan cards use it for gaming and bragging rights, so I don't feel sorry for them being cheated by Nvidia.

It's that people buy new videocards based off of CURRENT performance ...

If you knew different sets of people then you're probably not one of them ... 

What I state is more true than ever because people don't want to deal with 'promises' of better performance in the future which isn't guaranteed ... 

People liked AMD's CPU division because they delivered on current performance and right now they dislike their GPU division wasn't competitive with the current set of games even though AMD's newest Vega microarchitecture has the most amount of relevant hardware features which could potentially boost peformance signifanctly in future games like Wolfenstein 2 and Far Cry 5 making use of double rate FP16 ... (So I'm not going to risk it either just by some off chance that RX Vega will somehow top the GTX 1080 Ti in 2 years just in several AAA games and instead go with the latter as my upgrade. You obviously won't too as we can see and the same probably goes for most people in this thread as well.)

I've got to tell this to Pemalite too ...  

"Intel Makes Another Bad Decision, No Coffee Lake 8th Generation CPU Support on 200-Series ‘LGA 1151’ Motherboards"

http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-cpu-not-compatible-200-series-motherboards/

"Intel Launches Their Flagship Core i9-7980XE Processor on 18th October – First Extreme Edition CPU To Feature 18 Cores" $2000

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-7980xe-flagship-cpu-18-october-launch/



You can get 2 16 core ThreadRipper cpus for the price of 1 Intel 18 core cpu.

And 1 ThreadRipper CPU, even the 8 core, gives u more PCI-E lanes (64) than the $2000 18 core CPU (44). Are u kidding me?

Also I expected the coffee lake cpus not be compatible but I always kinda hoped it would after the Ryze of Amd but welp