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Pemalite said:
Captain_Yuri said:

As we reach the end of the quad core era, GN released a pretty cool video that benches from intel's glory days of the Sandy Bridge cpus to their boring days of the Skylake/Kaby Lake CPUs to their modern iterations. They also included some modern AMD Ryzen cpus for comparison:

Honestly I would have loved to see the benchmarks clock-normalize everything so we get an architectural performance improvement perspective.

Mmm yea now that would be cool. Specially since some cpus are at 4.6ghz while others are at 5.1ghz.



                  

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Pemalite said:
Captain_Yuri said:

As we reach the end of the quad core era, GN released a pretty cool video that benches from intel's glory days of the Sandy Bridge cpus to their boring days of the Skylake/Kaby Lake CPUs to their modern iterations. They also included some modern AMD Ryzen cpus for comparison:

Honestly I would have loved to see the benchmarks clock-normalize everything so we get an architectural performance improvement perspective.

I think you can extrapolate that quite well from the overclocked Sandybridge. Looks like roughly 20-30% or so. But it actually wouldn't really be fair to look at it like that. Going wide is just as important as going deep and thankfully Intel finally agrees after 10 years.



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Captain_Yuri said:

As we reach the end of the quad core era, GN released a pretty cool video that benches from intel's glory days of the Sandy Bridge cpus to their boring days of the Skylake/Kaby Lake CPUs to their modern iterations. They also included some modern AMD Ryzen cpus for comparison:

Does it include the patches that Intel has released over the years to patch the security holes?

Conina said:

Very disappointing Humble month:

*list of games*

The first time I paused it for years.

And Games with Gold and PS+ aren't better this month.

Won't you lose your Humble Monthly subscription if you pause it?

On another note, Intel has showed the first pic of its "Father of All" Xe-HP GPU:

https://www.techpowerup.com/266513/intel-teases-father-of-all-xe-hp-gpu

I know it's for the enterprise and HPC market, but that thing us massive, around 3700 mm².



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vivster said:
Pemalite said:

Honestly I would have loved to see the benchmarks clock-normalize everything so we get an architectural performance improvement perspective.

I think you can extrapolate that quite well from the overclocked Sandybridge. Looks like roughly 20-30% or so. But it actually wouldn't really be fair to look at it like that. Going wide is just as important as going deep and thankfully Intel finally agrees after 10 years.

Well. 5Ghz seems to be the good upper-ceiling for all Intel CPU's when you throw overclocking into the mix, so architectural improvements may matter to someone who is happy to run their Sandy-Bridge processor @5ghz or a Kaby-Lake @ 5ghz.
Plus Sandy-Bridge CPU's love memory bandwidth, lots of low-latency, high clocked DDR3 can close the gap.

Captain_Yuri said:

Mmm yea now that would be cool. Specially since some cpus are at 4.6ghz while others are at 5.1ghz.

The 2500K has a 3.3Ghz base clock, 3.7Ghz boost clock... But those chips can overclock like a bat out of hell, mostly because they came out at a time when Intel were still using solder rather than cheap-shit thermal paste between the die and integrated heat spreader.



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Anybody seen the first tests of AMD's U series of chips? Looks like Intel is in even more dire straits here

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3541009/ryzen-7-4700u-review-amds-budget-8-core-crushes-intels-10th-gen-chips-again.html

And probably the most damning slide out of the test was the handbrake test:

AMD's 8c/8t really crushing the 6c/12t of Intel under it's might.

Did I mention that the AMD system only costs a fraction of the Intel systems here?

Conina said:

Very disappointing Humble month:

The first time I paused it for years.

And Games with Gold and PS+ aren't better this month.

I'm still on the fence.

I got last month for free for my Covid-19 donation the month prior, but I'm not sure if I should jump in or not. It has quite a few games I'm interested in or at least sound interesting to me (Jurassic World Evolution, XCom 2, Warsaw, Gladius, Sword of Ditto, Rise of Industry), but anything else would be directly to my Steam code gifting thread.

JEMC said:

On another note, Intel has showed the first pic of its "Father of All" Xe-HP GPU:

https://www.techpowerup.com/266513/intel-teases-father-of-all-xe-hp-gpu

I know it's for the enterprise and HPC market, but that thing us massive, around 3700 mm².

Will it need a direct plug to the closest nuclear power plant to run?



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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Anybody seen the first tests of AMD's U series of chips? Looks like Intel is in even more dire straits here

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3541009/ryzen-7-4700u-review-amds-budget-8-core-crushes-intels-10th-gen-chips-again.html

And probably the most damning slide out of the test was the handbrake test:

AMD's 8c/8t really crushing the 6c/12t of Intel under it's might.

Did I mention that the AMD system only costs a fraction of the Intel systems here?

JEMC said:

On another note, Intel has showed the first pic of its "Father of All" Xe-HP GPU:

https://www.techpowerup.com/266513/intel-teases-father-of-all-xe-hp-gpu

I know it's for the enterprise and HPC market, but that thing us massive, around 3700 mm².

Will it need a direct plug to the closest nuclear power plant to run?

The AMD processor wins because it uses a lot less power and can run at higher freq for longer than the Intel ones, that cna barely run at their advertised clocks. That gives AMD a processor that performs better, runs cooler and has longer battery life. What else can you ask for?

And that battery in the picture isn't there only for slace, it's also a disguised nuclear reactor similar to the one thoe Ghostbusters used, only more advanced and miniaturized.



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JEMC said:
Captain_Yuri said:

As we reach the end of the quad core era, GN released a pretty cool video that benches from intel's glory days of the Sandy Bridge cpus to their boring days of the Skylake/Kaby Lake CPUs to their modern iterations. They also included some modern AMD Ryzen cpus for comparison:

Does it include the patches that Intel has released over the years to patch the security holes?

Not sure since he doesn't say



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
JEMC said:

Does it include the patches that Intel has released over the years to patch the security holes?

Not sure since he doesn't say

It's a shame. But, since almost no review includes the patches in their articles and results, I'm going to guess that this one doesn't do it either.



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JEMC said:

The AMD processor wins because it uses a lot less power and can run at higher freq for longer than the Intel ones, that cna barely run at their advertised clocks. That gives AMD a processor that performs better, runs cooler and has longer battery life. What else can you ask for?

Some more designs being available would be a good start.

Waiting for a good 2 in 1 for my wife for instance.



God I sure hope the Surface Book 3 has Ryzen 4000 series cpus otherwise I am gonna facepalm at MS. I have been meaning to get a replacement for my work laptop with one that can also play games and one that has Pen support. Generally the Surface Book line has had pretty good GPUs. Surface Book 2 had a 1060 when the best ultrabooks were running 1050/1050Ti and 2 in 1s generally had much worse.

The new one is rumoured to have a 1660 Ti Max Q + Intel's quad core i7s. They haven't revealed the AMD counterparts yet tho. Dream would be 4800U + 2060.



                  

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