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How is this "Super" reveal going to strictly be anywhere releated to Nintendo?.

Yeah, I'm aware of their deal with Nintendo in regards to the Tega powering the Switch, but just because of that one deal, doesn't automatically involve nvidia deep into Ninty territory, not with nvidia having more of it within other markets and desktop GPU's included.

if anything, this reveal is likely to be based either within refresh or new variant territory, rather than "we're releasing an exclusive piece of kit, that's 110% definitely going to power the Switch 1.5/2.0".



                                       

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Chazore said:
How is this "Super" reveal going to strictly be anywhere releated to Nintendo?.

Yeah, I'm aware of their deal with Nintendo in regards to the Tega powering the Switch, but just because of that one deal, doesn't automatically involve nvidia deep into Ninty territory, not with nvidia having more of it within other markets and desktop GPU's included.

if anything, this reveal is likely to be based either within refresh or new variant territory, rather than "we're releasing an exclusive piece of kit, that's 110% definitely going to power the Switch 1.5/2.0".

We kind of know that Nvidia is going to release the Ampere 7 nm GPUs the next year. It doesn't seem "super" relates to any of it.

Personally I'm thinking higher-clocked versions of the Turing GPUs to compete with Navi, named "super" like some of their cards were named "ultra" in the past. With a smaller chance of a new Tegra chip which could, perhaps, be tangentially related to Nintendo's plans on the mid to long term (since Nvidia has called Tegra Xavier a "supercomputer" already in the past). And a new Switch-exclusive chip being the least likely IMO.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
Chazore said:
How is this "Super" reveal going to strictly be anywhere releated to Nintendo?.

Yeah, I'm aware of their deal with Nintendo in regards to the Tega powering the Switch, but just because of that one deal, doesn't automatically involve nvidia deep into Ninty territory, not with nvidia having more of it within other markets and desktop GPU's included.

if anything, this reveal is likely to be based either within refresh or new variant territory, rather than "we're releasing an exclusive piece of kit, that's 110% definitely going to power the Switch 1.5/2.0".

We kind of know that Nvidia is going to release the Ampere 7 nm GPUs the next year. It doesn't seem "super" relates to any of it.

Personally I'm thinking higher-clocked versions of the Turing GPUs to compete with Navi, named "super" like some of their cards were named "ultra" in the past. With a smaller chance of a new Tegra chip which could, perhaps, be tangentially related to Nintendo's plans on the mid to long term (since Nvidia has called Tegra Xavier a "supercomputer" already in the past). And a new Switch-exclusive chip being the least likely IMO.

Super sounds like something at the high end, to compete with Navi they need to refresh the mid range. My guess is it's either a super minimal refresh or a rebranded Titan. Anyway it's most likely driven to take away some spotlight of the Navi reveal and nothing else.

Worst case would be they're using this refresh to bridge time to a delayed Ampere.



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Watched that AMD Computex Keynote, and it was glorious:

Navi not being GCN-based anymore, but RDNA, consumes 50% less and is 25% more performant per clock than Vega (1st gen, not Vega VII), aiming for about RTX 2060Ti-2070 performance. Oh, and they're called RX 5xxx, like RX 5700 for the announced Model.

But the big announcement was with next-gen Ryzen. They just showed:

Ryzen 5 3600 and 3600X (6C12T)
Ryzen 7 3700X and 3800X (8C16T)
Ryzen 9 3900X (12C24T)

15% improvement in IPC, higher clock speeds (Ryzen 9 gets 3.9Ghz base, 4.6Ghz Turbo, plus maybe some XFR on top of that), apparently beating Intel CPU both in multicore and singlecore performance (though that's in low single digits, so basically a draw in singlecore). Oh, and the Ryzen p 3900X destroyed the Intel i9 9920X (also 12 cores) in Blender(Ryzen was done long before the i9, as in 20-30% more performance) despite costing less then half as much.

Prices range from $199 (R5 3600) to $499 (R9 3900X), so more expensive than the leaks, but considering how low they were, that was pretty sure from the get-go.

Here's a link to a live reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr4j6OMYya4

But I suggest you take the tl;dr version as the other one is 2 hours long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqBijKHuHM

How do you think this will play out in the future? Will Intel find a counter anytime soon? Will Navi catch up to Nvidia in performance per watt?

Can't wait for the first benchmarks...

Edit: Also, Linus' reaction is... Epyc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7hofCnniJE

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Reading Computex news feels like I'm in a bizarro universe. AMD has IPC now? Intel GPU beating AMD? What has this world come to.

Then there is the new 9900KS with a turbo of 5GHz on ALL threads. That certainly sounds like something that would put my Noctua D15 to good use.



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vivster said:

Worst case would be they're using this refresh to bridge time to a delayed Ampere.

Isn't that what they're doing anyways since it's not launching until next year ? 



Also while on the subject of the new ryzen processors, it'd be interesting to see what exactly is the OC'ing headroon for it is ...



fatslob-:O said:
vivster said:

Worst case would be they're using this refresh to bridge time to a delayed Ampere.

Isn't that what they're doing anyways since it's not launching until next year ? 

The worst case would be that they delayed it even further and had to distract from that news.

Speaking of news, the press conference is apparently over and they said nothing about "super"?



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I don't like the fact that all X570 boards will come with a fan. Those small fans have traditionally failed sooner than most desired, plus tend to do a lot of noise.

I'm surprised by the lack of a 16-core part, but they'll probably save it for Threadripper. Also, that both 3700 and 3800 have the same number of cores and only differ in clocks and TDP probably means that overclockers should go with the later.

I like that the entry parts have 6 cores.

I'm also surprised that Navi turns out to be a new architecture (with a lame name), but maybe it's because it's such a big refinement or improvement over other GCN parts that they to differentiate is somehow. In any case, we'll see if the claims they make are real of just PR talk.



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Why the fuck would mainboards need fans? That's what the case fans are for.



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