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dahuman said:
trixiemafia86 said:

I intend to upgrade to the GTX 880 or AMD equivalent when it's out if there's up to 50% performance increase.

yeah I'm waiting for Maxwell level video cards as well myself, been running 6950 unlocked xfire a couple of years already, need that new toy.

I'v never xfire/SLI before. Is micro stutter an issue? Cos I taught of getting a second 680



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dahuman said:

 

Na, your 680 wouldn't keep up with PC graphics is about it, I have rigs from years ago that can still run console games better. All the shit you will see with 8th gen consoles will just look and run better on PC at the end of the gen and your 680 won't be able to catch up to those.

You don't think a 680 will hold up for 4-5 years? I think it will personally...

Something like 8800GTX or GTS 250 (same card essentially) gives you as good if not better than console quality details on todays games and up to 60 fps when you rock 720p. Id say GTX 680 is in the same boat.

Hell I remember playing metro on a 9600GT and it looked better than Xbox 360 version.



dahuman said:

g911turbo said:
 

I used to game on PC.  Early 2000s - I had a Radeon 9800 pro (showing my age maybe).  Since then I have used laptops for work and consoles.  So I would need to build a tower from scratch, and I am a guy who used to PC game.  Some people NEVER PC gamed.

That being said, I get where you are coming from if you're already in the mix.  Apples to apples, its hard to deny that consoles are PRICED aggressively.  Especially when you realize that sometimes these companies take a LOSS on the hardware they sell.

 

That and you don't need to BUILD something.  I don't have to go to newegg for RAM, Amazon for this, Microcenter for a case, here for a power supply, yadda yadda.  I but 1 item and done.  So it's easy to see the convenience draw of consoles too.

pffft way late to the PC gaming party there :P I started during the years of Duke Nukem and Wolf3D lol. Of course there were the Apple II, the NES, and so on, but once I went PC, I never left it and I still prefer DOS to this day because there is not a lot of overhead compared to running on top of Windows, you just load your drivers in autoexec and config and you were done, ease of dev fucked the efficiency of PC gaming and it's going to fuck consoles sooner or later as well. I was so happy when I got the AWE32 too, DOOM series sounded fucking awesome lol..... Anyhow, I'm a console gamer as well, though I gave up on 360 and will give up on One and PS4 due to P2PO charges until PS4 has a high number of SP JRPGs, gonna stick to my Wii U and 3DS until then and enjoy the good games on PS3 since they'll prolly support it a few more years anyhow.

LOL.  ME TOO!  Maybe we are BOTH showing our age haha.  "mein leben!"  I remember so many games from commander keen, to pitfall.

My brother and I used to have the DISK DRIVE Atari and the disk drive Amiga!  Yikes.

I don't really know why I stopped PC gaming (which is what I meant really) in early 2000s... I think the friends I used to game with moved away, went to grad school etc.  That and I started my first job out of college in 2004.  Never too late to come back I suppose, and my brother wants me to pick it back up actually.



Oh and for the record, this is all a moot point when in 5 years the laptop APUs that AMD releases are on par with PS4s lol. Murphy's law for the win!



g911turbo said:
dahuman said:

g911turbo said:
 

I used to game on PC.  Early 2000s - I had a Radeon 9800 pro (showing my age maybe).  Since then I have used laptops for work and consoles.  So I would need to build a tower from scratch, and I am a guy who used to PC game.  Some people NEVER PC gamed.

That being said, I get where you are coming from if you're already in the mix.  Apples to apples, its hard to deny that consoles are PRICED aggressively.  Especially when you realize that sometimes these companies take a LOSS on the hardware they sell.

 

That and you don't need to BUILD something.  I don't have to go to newegg for RAM, Amazon for this, Microcenter for a case, here for a power supply, yadda yadda.  I but 1 item and done.  So it's easy to see the convenience draw of consoles too.

pffft way late to the PC gaming party there :P I started during the years of Duke Nukem and Wolf3D lol. Of course there were the Apple II, the NES, and so on, but once I went PC, I never left it and I still prefer DOS to this day because there is not a lot of overhead compared to running on top of Windows, you just load your drivers in autoexec and config and you were done, ease of dev fucked the efficiency of PC gaming and it's going to fuck consoles sooner or later as well. I was so happy when I got the AWE32 too, DOOM series sounded fucking awesome lol..... Anyhow, I'm a console gamer as well, though I gave up on 360 and will give up on One and PS4 due to P2PO charges until PS4 has a high number of SP JRPGs, gonna stick to my Wii U and 3DS until then and enjoy the good games on PS3 since they'll prolly support it a few more years anyhow.

LOL.  ME TOO!  Maybe we are BOTH showing our age haha.  "mein leben!"  I remember so many games from commander keen, to pitfall.

My brother and I used to have the DISK DRIVE Atari and the disk drive Amiga!  Yikes.

I don't really know why I stopped PC gaming (which is what I meant really) in early 2000s... I think the friends I used to game with moved away, went to grad school etc.  That and I started my first job out of college in 2004.  Never too late to come back I suppose, and my brother wants me to pick it back up actually.

Amiga 500 with the disk drive was the greatest PC-like gaming system when it came out. Way better than 286/386 PCs for gaming.  I remember playing it with friends all the way till 1994.  Turrican games, Street fighter 2, Mortal Kombat 1 and 2...



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disolitude said:
g911turbo said:
dahuman said:

g911turbo said:
 

I used to game on PC.  Early 2000s - I had a Radeon 9800 pro (showing my age maybe).  Since then I have used laptops for work and consoles.  So I would need to build a tower from scratch, and I am a guy who used to PC game.  Some people NEVER PC gamed.

That being said, I get where you are coming from if you're already in the mix.  Apples to apples, its hard to deny that consoles are PRICED aggressively.  Especially when you realize that sometimes these companies take a LOSS on the hardware they sell.

 

That and you don't need to BUILD something.  I don't have to go to newegg for RAM, Amazon for this, Microcenter for a case, here for a power supply, yadda yadda.  I but 1 item and done.  So it's easy to see the convenience draw of consoles too.

pffft way late to the PC gaming party there :P I started during the years of Duke Nukem and Wolf3D lol. Of course there were the Apple II, the NES, and so on, but once I went PC, I never left it and I still prefer DOS to this day because there is not a lot of overhead compared to running on top of Windows, you just load your drivers in autoexec and config and you were done, ease of dev fucked the efficiency of PC gaming and it's going to fuck consoles sooner or later as well. I was so happy when I got the AWE32 too, DOOM series sounded fucking awesome lol..... Anyhow, I'm a console gamer as well, though I gave up on 360 and will give up on One and PS4 due to P2PO charges until PS4 has a high number of SP JRPGs, gonna stick to my Wii U and 3DS until then and enjoy the good games on PS3 since they'll prolly support it a few more years anyhow.

LOL.  ME TOO!  Maybe we are BOTH showing our age haha.  "mein leben!"  I remember so many games from commander keen, to pitfall.

My brother and I used to have the DISK DRIVE Atari and the disk drive Amiga!  Yikes.

I don't really know why I stopped PC gaming (which is what I meant really) in early 2000s... I think the friends I used to game with moved away, went to grad school etc.  That and I started my first job out of college in 2004.  Never too late to come back I suppose, and my brother wants me to pick it back up actually.

Amiga 500 with the disk drive was the greatest PC-like gaming system when it came out. Way better than 286/386 PCs for gaming.  I remember playing it with friends all the way till 1994.  Turrican games, Street fighter 2, Mortal Kombat 1 and 2...

Aaargh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TOJOy4gCgk

and

Barbarian Palace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDDtQd7wxSc

 

ahhh, memories



KhinRunite said:
As long as we're talking purely about gaming, it's a no-brainer that consoles are the better choice. Afterall, that's what they're made for. It'd be a shame if they end up inferior to an all-purpose device.


Where a better choice. Consoles are becoming so much like PCs that it almost makes it worthwhile switching.



 

 

g911turbo said:
disolitude said:

 

Amiga 500 with the disk drive was the greatest PC-like gaming system when it came out. Way better than 286/386 PCs for gaming.  I remember playing it with friends all the way till 1994.  Turrican games, Street fighter 2, Mortal Kombat 1 and 2...

Aaargh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TOJOy4gCgk

and

Barbarian Palace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDDtQd7wxSc

 

ahhh, memories


Oh I remember Barbarian Palace... Amiga version is clearly the superior in that comparison. Must be the extra 512 KB or RAM it had over Atari ST :)



Looking to spend around 150-200 on graphics card. I have a few in mind but what do you guys think would be the best ati card for that price range? (A little off topic but no need for a thread to be made for it)



sethnintendo said:
Looking to spend around 150-200 on graphics card. I have a few in mind but what do you guys think would be the best ati card for that price range? (A little off topic but no need for a thread to be made for it)

7850 or GTX 660 for under 200 dollars... Id say "if you add 50 more you can get 7870 XT or 7950 or GTX 760"...but there is tax and all so you'd have to spend over 300 to get those card total.