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iceboy151 said:
Do we really want another Uncharted? Move on and create a new IP.

Damn yes we need uncharted 4!



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I don't think it would make sense for the whole game to be set at that time since it couldn't provide the same style of 3rd person shooting the series is famous for.

But there could be a few chapters, U3 flashback style, intertwining the modern era and the 16th century. It would bring some fresh air to the series, and I think it needs it.



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"UC4 will be about Sir Francis Drake and some journey in the ocean"

That's honestly one of the BEST ideas I've every heard. I though I'd had enough of Uncharted and was really hoping they'd move on, but this sounds FRESH and AMAZING.

ND are the best.



eFKac said:
Slimebeast said:
What if, bam, Uncharted would go open world? That'd be so exciting.

I doubt they have the courage though. A long sea voyage sounds at least a bit refreshing.


And become as bad in storytelling as Oblivion and Skyrim were? My god that would be a nightmare come tru for me...

Yes, but so much stronger in all the other aspects of what makes up a good game...

But about story telling, I don't understand how Elder Scrolls story telling is considered weak by so many. In my head the story of Oblivion (and Skyrim too) is very alive. It was very clear, important and real to me.

I would even argue that since games like Elder Scrolls immerse you so much deeper and integrate the player so much stronger into their worlds, the story actually becomes more alive and meaningful than in cinematic Hollywood-games like Uncharted.

To me, Nathan Drake's adventures are just like a random Hollywood adventure movie that grips me for a few hours, or a few days at best, while the worlds and stories of Elder Scrolls are alive in my mind for years.



tuscaniman99 said:
I don't know why they would be taking preorders for Uncharted 4 if it isn't going to release till fall 2014. There is no way they reveal it at Gamescom and release it 2 months later. Sony always teases ND games a year before release.

...I meant announcement in December not LAUNCH XD



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Slimebeast said:
eFKac said:
Slimebeast said:
What if, bam, Uncharted would go open world? That'd be so exciting.

I doubt they have the courage though. A long sea voyage sounds at least a bit refreshing.


And become as bad in storytelling as Oblivion and Skyrim were? My god that would be a nightmare come tru for me...

To me, Nathan Drake's adventures are just like a random Hollywood adventure movie that grips me for a few hours, or a few days at best, while the worlds and stories of Elder Scrolls are alive in my mind for years.

Swap that and you share my sentiments. Atleast for UC3. Meanwhile, I don't even want to touch Skyrim whereas I did actually play Fallout 3 and stopped after I blew up Megaton (XD). What im trying to say is: Opinions.



Slimebeast said:
eFKac said:
Slimebeast said:
What if, bam, Uncharted would go open world? That'd be so exciting.

I doubt they have the courage though. A long sea voyage sounds at least a bit refreshing.


And become as bad in storytelling as Oblivion and Skyrim were? My god that would be a nightmare come tru for me...

Yes, but so much stronger in all the other aspects of what makes up a good game...

But about story telling, I don't understand how Elder Scrolls story telling is considered weak by so many. In my head the story of Oblivion (and Skyrim too) is very alive. It was very clear, important and real to me.

I would even argue that since games like Elder Scrolls immerse you so much deeper and integrate the player so much stronger into their worlds, the story actually becomes more alive and meaningful than in cinematic Hollywood-games like Uncharted.

To me, Nathan Drake's adventures are just like a random Hollywood adventure movie that grips me for a few hours, or a few days at best, while the worlds and stories of Elder Scrolls are alive in my mind for years.

I am with you about the elder scrolls. The elder scrolls is one of the best series at story telling. The way the series created a big world and a ton of lore for it all count is incredible. We have a lot of races and a lot of stories inside it. Maybe the main storyline isn't that mindblowing but the exceptional world and background the people at bethesda created is very praise worthy.

As for uncharted... I don't think they are random Hollywood movies, I mean the story may be very cliched and generic but it's the characters, gameplay and set pieces that make it a stellar gamec. The story is not so great but for the way it's presented is stunning :)



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Slimebeast said:
eFKac said:
Slimebeast said:
What if, bam, Uncharted would go open world? That'd be so exciting.

I doubt they have the courage though. A long sea voyage sounds at least a bit refreshing.


And become as bad in storytelling as Oblivion and Skyrim were? My god that would be a nightmare come tru for me...

Yes, but so much stronger in all the other aspects of what makes up a good game...

But about story telling, I don't understand how Elder Scrolls story telling is considered weak by so many. In my head the story of Oblivion (and Skyrim too) is very alive. It was very clear, important and real to me.

I would even argue that since games like Elder Scrolls immerse you so much deeper and integrate the player so much stronger into their worlds, the story actually becomes more alive and meaningful than in cinematic Hollywood-games like Uncharted.

To me, Nathan Drake's adventures are just like a random Hollywood adventure movie that grips me for a few hours, or a few days at best, while the worlds and stories of Elder Scrolls are alive in my mind for years.

I admit, it was meant to be a provocative comment, to get your attention, not that the storytelling is TES games is horrible, but still in my opinion weak. For two main reasons for me:

1.The exact Open World structure. It makes the story inconsistent for me, because I'm doing a main story related quest, finish it, and then go for making something else, because I have the opportunity, so I fall out of the story, cause I have to help citizens in a city or whatever, and only then after some time get back to the main quest. So it lacks continuity, of course because of my playing style, but I'm not going to change it.

2.Very flat, forgettable characters. Oblivion for me had like two-three important characters: Martin Septim (who was a very weak protagonist), and Gray Fox whose story was cool. Other than that? I don't know, Sinderion comes to mind, probably because gathering the nirnroots was such a pain in the ass. Skyrim was a bit better in this regard, having more complex characters, and a bit more tricky conflict with Ulfric Stormcloak, and this old dude from High Hrothgar being most memorable for me, plus Paarthurnax (if I spell it correctly) and Alduin. Both games also have highlights in Daedra Princes who have some personality, but are also very fixated on one trait.

Stories being consistent in Uncharted games, thanks to being linear and continous by principle, plus the fact that I can enumerate more memorable characters, both antagonists and protagonists in every single one of the Uncharted entries speaks volumes. Also the stories are solid, consistent, sometimes surprising, and entertaining, which is enough to easily beat TES games in terms of story, cause even though I've spent probably aprox 10 times more time in the worlds of TES games than in Uncharted games, I have yet to meet a character that I feel is emotionally moving or really likeable and defined by an interesting story. So yeah I agree it grips for a few hours or days, but leaves me with a way stronger emotions, while TES games, make me immersed for way longer, but never strongly, emotionally involved.

Plus, at least in my opinion, the most story related quests, so main quests, were simply weak per se. Especially the Oblivion one. Strong division between the good guys and the bad guys, the main character (Martin Septim) being very flat in terms of personality, one sided, and seriously going from being a monk, to become the heir of Septim dynasty, without second thoughts? That itself made the character a joke for me. The same with having the main unnamed character (Hero of Kvatch? really?) not even speaking a word is a turn off. Skyrim's story was definitely better, more complex. We had a civil war, with legitimate reasons going for both sides, also the division between the good  and bad guys wasn't very clear. The Aldmeri Dominion, was drawed as too much evil for me, but the rest was good. Also the dragonborn story was decent, with greybeards being divided in their stance on what to do with Alduin, changing their attitude whether to let him destroy the world and make this "purge" and the blades, and dragonborn desprerate to kill him was interesting. But still those stories weren't mindblowing.



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iceboy151 said:
Do we really want another Uncharted? Move on and create a new IP.


I always find it odd when people say things like this. You may not want it but there are millions of others who do.



This actually sounds legit.