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Didn't they say they will kill Sony? What do you think. Sounded more like seppuku immediately after the conference though



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totally had more games to show that were not multiplatform than sony did for the next gen consoles....and with everyone toutng that sony won becuase of disc based games made MS jump ship and go back to disc based games...so Sony's E3 victory led to the Xbox 180



 



They did say that, but as we know now they didn't have a clue what they were talking about. Thankfully, they are able to listen so could well salvage the XB1 and the reputation before the launch.

But yeah no more arrogance MS, it nearly cost you the generation.



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A load of BS like most of us knew it would be.

Sony didn't even reveal much of their software. There were also only a few cool Xbox One exclusives. Definitely not enough to "kill" anyone.



Dr.Grass said:
A load of BS like most of us knew it would be.

Sony didn't even reveal much of their software. There were also only a few cool Xbox One exclusives. Definitely not enough to "kill" anyone.

A load of BS... It was game after game after game after game. Most of you are Sony fans, right?

Certainly not enough to kill anything but it certainly wasn't BS.



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No. But Sony didn't kill MS either.

Both Sony and MS will stay in the gaming industry for a long time. Although I am a Xbox fan, I like MS, Sony and Nintendo to stay in the industry and try to resist Apple and Google to enter this field.



ironmanDX said:
Dr.Grass said:
A load of BS like most of us knew it would be.

Sony didn't even reveal much of their software. There were also only a few cool Xbox One exclusives. Definitely not enough to "kill" anyone.

A load of BS... It was game after game after game after game. Most of you are Sony fans, right?

Certainly not enough to kill anything but it certainly wasn't BS.


It wasn't more impressive than any other e3 montage I've seen in my years. And I've seen many. Titanfall will go to PS4 eventually. Forza was expected. That leaves less than 5 noteworthy games. And of those, only 2 (Ryse and QB) are envy-inducing.

"...game after game after game after game." is a major hyporbole imho.

You want to see MS killing it, look at the first few e3's for the original Xbox. That was impressive. This, not really so much. And you can call me whatever you want - I've owned every MS console there was. The first one was the best: All those Sega games, KOTR, PGR, Halo (when it was still awe-inspiring and fresh), Elder Scrolls... Was just incredible. This is just ok in my book. Good enough, but not spectacular.

If you can't accept that opinion as legitimate, then there's nothing further to discuss. They needed another 3 or 4 high profile games (how about a friggin RPG eh?) in my book to have raised eyebrows.

No, it was above average. That's all.



Nope. Sure XBO revealed more games; but due to the DRM all that was buried; and even though the DRM is gone; people are talking right now about the launch titles; so everything else M$ showed really did not matter due to how they shot themselves in the foot time after time again.

People right now are focused on the launch line-up of both.

Sony can still show more games; because they have lots more to reveal; meanwhile M$ has barely a couple more to show.



Sony had notably weaker content for their E3 presentation, as most of the games they showed were multiplatform, but they had a much better PR team and just made a better presentation.

The Microsoft team's biggest problem was that with a massive change like they wanted with their DRM policies, they would have to be precise, clear, and market the benefits like crazy. They did none of that: they swept it under the rug and it came out in Q&A's after the presentations. Gamers rightly got defensive: companies don't sweep "good" changes under the rug.

Chances are this is because Microsoft didn't know what they wanted, either. I have heard at least four variations on the family plan, and I'm convinced most of their DRM policies were still rough drafts when they made the announcement/ E3 presentations. BAD IDEA. If you don't know exactly what you want to do, you can't communicate it to your audience in a positive way.

That would also explain why their policies were so retarded. They were filled with half-baked ideas. Cloud computing in particular: if they really wanted to pimp the cloud, why not make the XB1 a cheap box to fling an image on screen rather than a $500 monolith.

Sony was much more up front. Yeah, used games will still work. Yeah, you need to pay for PS+ now for multiplayer.



In terms of games E3 was weak in my opinion.

I have the feeling that Gamescom and TGS will be more software driven.