As a gamer, we are the winner. For the launch line up, I prefer Ryse, Forza 5 & DR3 on Xbox One more than KillZone, Knack & Drive Club on PS4. But I am certain sure that PS4's exclusive will be better than X1's exclusive in the future. And I am also certain sure that MS will quite improve their 1st party games in the next gen.

So again, gamers are winner and fanboys are clueless.

Yeah, I always found it quite strange that Sony does not have any first party RPG (specifically WRPG), when they are so popular and profitable these days.

I made no such claim, but I am referring to the studious where mounting evidence for their PS4 titles has been gathering. Some of those studious have all but said they are working on new IPs for the next gen while others have been linked to projects inadvertently (such as their Linkedin profiles attaching them to next gen projects).  SSM, Guerilla and MM are among the former where members have acknowledged the existence of next gen games but have not given profound details - thus they exist, but are unconfirmed. Goes back to the key The existance of all the currently confirmed PS4 games was discovered along the same lines before the reveal (hints, tweets, interviews, Linkedin profiles, etc).

Black Tusk would still qualify even without the teaser since they acknowledged the title long before E3 – ‘the next Halo.”

Yoshida subsequently corrected Tretton and said it was not on hiatus or in any such state. I would take his word over Tretton’s given the nature of his job and the proximity he has to maintain with first parties.

Their claim on the title was not misleading. From what I understand, the title was simply too ambitious for the PS3 and that translated into our current dilemma. Fumito Ueda basically admitted the game was about complete in one of his recent (or relatively recent) interviews. I can’t speak for Sony, but I would think they moved the title (to PS4) due to those constraints, and the game will be subsequently released when they are ready to release. If FFXIII VS can come out of the doldrums then I am sure TLG will as well.

Also … your mention of that Zelda tech demo is irrelevant in this case since that has virtually nothing to do with the Zelda game in development. It was only a showcase of the Wii U’s prowess, and not exactly an indication of what the next Zelda will look like. This was confirmed by Eiji Anouma. The next gen Zelda will dawn a new style that is nothing like the aforementioned trailer.

Who gives a fuck? As long as they are good I am ine with them. And I really would like to have you Superpowers.

That's the thing - sales. I know sales are important, but in an argument like this I don't think it has much place. Fun factor should be the first thing one thinks of. The titles on the XBO look very interesting and have encouraged me to make a purchase. I couldn't careless if they sell well or not (I would like at least decent sales if the games are good to encourage a sequel though).

Of course... YouTube... the launch games were playable at E3.

No tell me what launch windows exclusive is better than Killzone or inFAMOUS? Sorry but the MS launch exclusives are weak.

Oh I know.  It's just a bit curious why they would put those up.  We will likely get a naughty dog announcemnent at VGA's. So we'll see then.  Havok I am doubtful since wouldn't that be some sort of copyright infringement on the name?