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disolitude said:

Not something you or I can judge at this point and time. Regardless, the quote is perfectly valid for this thread and discussions at hand...

No, I agree, it is very fitting. My only point is that you could resell a Model T

Edit: Though the marketing was very similar "you can have a model T in any color you like, so long as it is black" - Henry Ford



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disolitude said:
kitler53 said:
disolitude said:

lol. Microsofts message post E3: "Tell us what to do with the console since we clearly have no idea what we're doing"

In all seriousness, this is good news if true.


isn't competition great!

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” - Henry Ford, maker of Ford Model T (first mass produced car)


The fact that (first mass produced car) is in parentheses made me laugh.



disolitude said:
Osc89 said:
disolitude said:
“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” - Henry Ford, maker of Ford Model T (first mass produced car)

 


Interesting choice of quote, given that it was Ford's refusal to give his customers choices that caused their market share to fall from 65% to 15%. I wonder if we would have seen a similar effect in Microsoft's case.

Who knows, its quite possible...but all we can do now is have pointless banter about it.

No chance of revolution or massive marketshare drops when there is no differentiation between preceding or competing offerings of a product.


Or they could have just added the features to digital downloads and let the consumer decide. Or an opt in / opt out choice in the settings where you can choose whether or not to register a disc. They could have had their revolution, just while keeping their policies backwards compatible.



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Osc89 said:


Or they could have just added the features to digital downloads and let the consumer decide. Or an opt in / opt out choice in the settings where you can choose whether or not to register a disc. They could have had their revolution, just while keeping their policies backwards compatible.

This is the main point that is really really interesting. Why did they scrap the whole thing? Some have said its proof that sharing never worked, and others have said that the feature never existed in the first place, or was distorted PR spin. Others, like myself, say that this is proof that MS only changed because of Gamestop. 10 games being shared is literally worse than used games and piracy, and would've fucked gamestop so hard.

Again, it was also the only thing that made me want an xb1...literally too good to be true.



My post from 4 days ago.  Toot toot.

pokoko said:
Requiring a publisher in the current digital environment is ridiculous and archaic. All it does is to eat away money that should go to the developer. I have no idea why anyone would defend this, yet I've already seen people try.

I expect another reversal by Microsoft. I know they're trying very hard to please publishers but a publisher is nothing without developers. They'll have to allow self-publishing eventually and on that day I expect a lot of the same people defending their current policy to tell us how great it is that they're changing.


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It might happen, but I doubt it. The no-self-publishing policy is made in favor of big publishers. I suspect MS will continue this policy. They (MS) are pro-publisher, not pro-consumer. Long history of this kind of behavior on its Windows platform, as well as the Xbox. Very unlikely to change, but you never know.



BeElite said:
I wonder how many are getting fired for the massive frak up that was the Xones early days.

MS new tagline should be, we promises to do what Sony does if you don't buy or product.


On, no doubt MS will try to push the blame onto execs in the hope that people won't notice it's a mess up on a corporate scale, but it won't work.



 

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theprof00 said:
Osc89 said:


Or they could have just added the features to digital downloads and let the consumer decide. Or an opt in / opt out choice in the settings where you can choose whether or not to register a disc. They could have had their revolution, just while keeping their policies backwards compatible.

This is the main point that is really really interesting. Why did they scrap the whole thing? Some have said its proof that sharing never worked, and others have said that the feature never existed in the first place, or was distorted PR spin. Others, like myself, say that this is proof that MS only changed because of Gamestop. 10 games being shared is literally worse than used games and piracy, and would've fucked gamestop so hard.

Again, it was also the only thing that made me want an xb1...literally too good to be true.


I agree, I really can't see how Gamestop would have approved this plan. Then again, how could MS build so much around such a plan without making sure it is backed and approved by every significant party? Sadly, I'm not sure it will be possible to find a logical solution. MS almost certainly couldn't have had a properly thought out plan otherwise they wouldn't have had every XB1 event be a PR disaster.



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Osc89 said:
disolitude said:
Osc89 said:
disolitude said:
“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” - Henry Ford, maker of Ford Model T (first mass produced car)

 


Interesting choice of quote, given that it was Ford's refusal to give his customers choices that caused their market share to fall from 65% to 15%. I wonder if we would have seen a similar effect in Microsoft's case.

Who knows, its quite possible...but all we can do now is have pointless banter about it.

No chance of revolution or massive marketshare drops when there is no differentiation between preceding or competing offerings of a product.


Or they could have just added the features to digital downloads and let the consumer decide. Or an opt in / opt out choice in the settings where you can choose whether or not to register a disc. They could have had their revolution, just while keeping their policies backwards compatible.

Its possible that you and I are not privy to information for something that they have planned which needed them to discard their old policies.

Most people that deal with digital ecosystems know that without platform consistency for every user, the experience inevitably gets diluted for everyone in the long run as you can't count on standardization.

As a project manager that has managed many large website and app launches in the last few years, I can tell you that sometimes you have to break support with certain things, to implement other better things. I've been part of website re-designs and re-launches with totally different layout and functionality, causing them to lose half of the audience but double the revenue. I've seen it backfire too...

With technology and disruption, if you never end up using a back up plan, you played it way too safe and you're not going to disrupt anything. Microsoft just used theirs...



Awesome news. Indies did insainly well on the 360. I hope it continues with the X1.