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For me the issue is I know what I get with a Nintendo console. It is great, but it also is not one I feel the need to rush out and buy. I got a Wii in 2010 and never regretted waiting on it as then could swoop up the stable of Mario and all that I wanted. It worked out great and I plan to do the same with Wii U. Especially with the Wii U being $300-$350 I am content to wait for it to hit sub $200 range.

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i agree with the OP, in that it should have had a different name, at the very least to avoid confusion

There is nothing about the Wii U that has to do with the Blue Ocean Strategy, it is an HD GameCube poorly disguised as a successor to the Wii. The masses did not abandon Nintendo, it is Nintendo that is abandoning them.



Rhonin the wizard said:

There is nothing about the Wii U that has to do with the Blue Ocean Strategy, it is an HD GameCube poorly disguised as a successor to the Wii. The masses did not abandon Nintendo, it is Nintendo that is abandoning them.

I totally agree... But the console image, name and marketing says otherwise.



disolitude said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Most of the people who bought the Wii are very knowledgeable about their console. They also enjoyed it and bought a lot of games.

Nothing wrong with expanding on the Wii brand. As was said by VO, however, they should have called it Wii 2. People love sequels, and associate higher numbers with something better. This would have been the same idea as Apple's iPhone 1, 2, 3.. and so on. People would love to buy the new, better version of Wii called Wii 2.

Regardless, the biggest problems with Wii U are a lack of must-have software, poor marketing, and strong value in the PS360. A lot of people were still buying PS360 and they still have great games coming out, and are cheaper.

Wii U needs a new marketing campaign that promotes it as a high-tech innovative new product and some great new games. The fall lineup should help, as should the killing off of PS360 with the arrival of the more expensive successors.

You really think that the majoity of Wii purchases were made by knowledgable gamers? I'm not saying that there aren't some, but if Wii didn't appeal to the casuals, party folks and people who saw Wii Sports and Wii Fit as games of choice...I see Wii selling a lot less than PS3 and 360 today. They'd lose half of the Wii sales easily without the blue ocean...

Your perception is shared by many hardcore gamers but isn't reality.  The vast majority of Wii buyers weren't grandparents or stay-at-home moms playing Wii bowling or weighing themselves.  The single largest chunk of Wii buyers were the mainstream.  They were families, adults, children, people who like new things.  The people that made it a massive seller are people who saw the motion controls, like Nintendo franchises, wanted something new and the price was right.  These are people that in the past probably bought mainstream hits like GTA, probably bought Guitar Hero, obviously bought Wii Sports and many probably love COD right now.  They are not tech heads, but they know what a Wii is.  They're not idiots.  And they did buy upwards of 10 games per console, not the Wii Sports and Fit and that's it that detractors like to say.

The problem is that Nintendo hasn't given this mainstream a reason to buy Wii U.  Some may not be fully aware that Wii U is actually Wii 2.  But moreso is the problem that they don't care.  Nothing about Wii U has been exciting enough to make them want it yet.  The advertising was bad and the "coolest" exclusive was Zombie U.  They may also have bought a PS360 when the price came down and they picked up an HDTV, relegating the Wii brand to second place in the home.  Wii U needs games and promotion that tell the mass market it's worth their time.



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I read the same thing about 3ds and ds the wii U problem is the 3rd party support.

PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

The delayed games is certainly the biggest problem, but also the lack of marketing is an issue also,as you say.

Hopefully both these issues will be resolved in a few months, however

 

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TheLastStarFighter said:
disolitude said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Most of the people who bought the Wii are very knowledgeable about their console. They also enjoyed it and bought a lot of games.

Nothing wrong with expanding on the Wii brand. As was said by VO, however, they should have called it Wii 2. People love sequels, and associate higher numbers with something better. This would have been the same idea as Apple's iPhone 1, 2, 3.. and so on. People would love to buy the new, better version of Wii called Wii 2.

Regardless, the biggest problems with Wii U are a lack of must-have software, poor marketing, and strong value in the PS360. A lot of people were still buying PS360 and they still have great games coming out, and are cheaper.

Wii U needs a new marketing campaign that promotes it as a high-tech innovative new product and some great new games. The fall lineup should help, as should the killing off of PS360 with the arrival of the more expensive successors.

You really think that the majoity of Wii purchases were made by knowledgable gamers? I'm not saying that there aren't some, but if Wii didn't appeal to the casuals, party folks and people who saw Wii Sports and Wii Fit as games of choice...I see Wii selling a lot less than PS3 and 360 today. They'd lose half of the Wii sales easily without the blue ocean...

Your perception is shared by many hardcore gamers but isn't reality.  The vast majority of Wii buyers weren't grandparents or stay-at-home moms playing Wii bowling or weighing themselves.  The single largest chunk of Wii buyers were the mainstream.  They were families, adults, children, people who like new things.  The people that made it a massive seller are people who saw the motion controls, like Nintendo franchises, wanted something new and the price was right.  These are people that in the past probably bought mainstream hits like GTA, probably bought Guitar Hero, obviously bought Wii Sports and many probably love COD right now.  They are not tech heads, but they know what a Wii is.  They're not idiots.  And they did buy upwards of 10 games per console, not the Wii Sports and Fit and that's it that detractors like to say.

The problem is that Nintendo hasn't given this mainstream a reason to buy Wii U.  Some may not be fully aware that Wii U is actually Wii 2.  But moreso is the problem that they don't care.  Nothing about Wii U has been exciting enough to make them want it yet.  The advertising was bad and the "coolest" exclusive was Zombie U.  They may also have bought a PS360 when the price came down and they picked up an HDTV, relegating the Wii brand to second place in the home.  Wii U needs games and promotion that tell the mass market it's worth their time.


i think software sales says otherwise



I'm not sure that it matters because people to stupid to know it is a new console aren't who Nintendo is targeting with this machine.  Get smarter friends