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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Microsoft Clarify Family Sharing, Wasn’t Only Demos

ironmanDX said:
papamudd said:
Fanboys will blindly believe anything they read that promotes their way of thinking..

Not sure who you're referring too... Sony or MS... It could count as both!


Oh i think it goes beyond just those two  



Talal said:
I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014.

in reference to KH3 release date

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You got to be careful with Microsoft execs in defend mode.

Both questions asked about family sharing but not the family sharing plan. Big difference

 

The wording here could get past legal if there was indeed a time limit on the plan people assume they are refering to. Don’t believe everything you read online



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I hope this XBox One fiasco is a waking call for Microsoft in regards to how they should handle revealing a new piece of hardware and why it's actually VERY important that everyone answering questions be singing the same damn song. There are so many pieces of news floating on the internet, each statement coming from a different source, each stating complete opposites at times and very wavy info that only furthered to sour the consumers to the idea of the One. I do believe MS have a great machine ready to launch this Fall, but their strategy for it seems picked from Sony circa 2006, if not rather worse. Sony were arrogant, Microsoft right now have proven to be both arrogant and freaking senile.



I think they are telling the truth because that sharing feature was talked about a lot by them. If it was only to share demos then even fewer people would buy the console and they would lose more customers who accused them of lying.



    

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Perhaps those clinging to the vain hope this isn't true are the same posters who made themselves look silly in other threads by jumping the gun to try and mock XBO fans. Face it, you've nobody to blame but yourselves.



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Exactly. So now, straight from the horses mouth isn't even good enough because Microsoft. Everyone else must know better.

I love how the same people who were shouting "no drm" are suddenly worried about publisher profits for family sharing.



MB1025 said:
theprof00 said:
Yeah because they removed drm for the consumers.
Lie after lie after lie

Well since the perception is they have bad PR they could have spoke honestly and said they don't give two fucks about you or your problems like every company thinks or they could just spint he same PR bull crap all companies do and say they did it for you.

But hey people on the internet need to feel better about themselves and continue to call out PR BS when we have been hearing the same shit from Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft since they have been in the industry.

Everyone knows they removed it because of money, but do you think they are not going to lie and tell us otherwise?


Consumers are how they make money.. Consumers didn't like drm, consumers weren't going to buy their console with drm, so yes, at the end of the day they removed it to for the consumers. Why don't people understand that concept?

With regards to the original topic - why are we even talking about Family Sharing at all? Its dead! Who cares what it woulda, coulda, shoulda been? Let it Rest In Peace.



well and bottomline none of have a real answer on whether their model was gonna hurt the devs.... since we have no clue on how it would have actually worked....

there is countless of options with DD that could have generated profit even with a sharing plan... people are just assuming that it would have meant 60/10 for the devs.... nobody knows that.... we don't even know the specifics of the Xb live gold plans we'll have next gen... for all we know we could have had a form of subscription to the family library or something like that.... it was supposed to be available to all accounts on the box... but every other box needed a gold plan.... you could also have a different reward system.... giving discounts on DLC to the owner of the games... or access to more online content... you could have difference for the Gamerscore (it is relevant to some gamers).... etc... countless of option to generate profit without removing a true sharing system....
and I think it is because that model wasn't finalized and is still not that MS didn't talk extensively about how it worked... they didn't know yet all the final specifics of it.....



slowmo said:
Perhaps those clinging to the vain hope this isn't true are the same posters who made themselves look silly in other threads by jumping the gun to try and mock XBO fans. Face it, you've nobody to blame but yourselves.

Don't want to come across as rude, but the only people who are coming across as silly as those who actually believed that MS would allow you to buy 1 copy of a game but share it fully with 10 other people. I know you are a massive MS fan (can tell by how you defend them regardless of what they do).... but you need to try and take the blinkers off.

Publishers would *NOT* have done this. There should be no argument on this point.... and if you agree with that point, then I'm afraid i dont see how this would have ever worked.



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And that's the problem... you not seeing how it would have ever worked.... doesn't necessarily imply that there wasn't solutions for it to work.....
Not enough elements came out for anyone to claim it would have been 60 bucks divided by 10 for the devs and gamers....
That's how you see it nothing more....

It's like a long time ago people where saying humans can't fly.... yet today I fly several times a year.... our lack of vision and understanding doesn't void the feasibility of something....