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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Fez’s Phil Fish: “Microsoft Won’t let me Develop for Their Console. But Sony Will”

CDiablo on 20 June 2013
superchunk said:
I wonder about Wii U. I know it has tools to nearly auto translate Android/iOS code to Wii U and I'm pretty sure it was also setup so self-publishing was ok.

He shittalked WiiU and 3DS quite a bit so I dont think hes into Ninty. PS/PS4 looks likely for now.



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nanarchy on 20 June 2013
spurgeonryan said:
think-man said:
Im sure MS fans wont miss this game to much lol


Still, I think the point is that it is hard for some developers to develop games for it.

 

I have heard of Fez, but have no idea what it is.

It is not so much that it is hard but that the policy is around getting your game right and releasing, not pushing any old crap or releasing buggy stuff and patching later. Some like this approach as it encourages better quality to start with and some hate it as testing can be expensive and time consuming especially in a small indie and the submission process is more onerous. There is nothing inherently hard to develop for, just that patches go via MS servers and those patches are expensive to deploy, discoverability in XBox also has issues 



AndrewWK on 20 June 2013
RenCutypoison said:
Didn't Fez flopped for a 5 years dev cycle ?
I tried it, but I was bored after 15 minutes or so, I didn't even knew why I was playing it.

Still, Phil Fish is a quite influent guy on the indie scene, so good news for Sony

Thats why they are making a sequel to that 

 

@topic He didn´t say Microsoft wont let him he said he dislikes the anti-indie policies the patch problem being one of those policies

here is the original source 

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/20/4445476/phil-fish-on-fez-2-ambition-and-launch-platforms-not-xbox



LordMatrix on 20 June 2013

I don`t see any big deal here. Fez and many other indie games like Spelunky and Super Meat Boy came to the Xbox 360 and I don`t see this being any different with Xbox One. Most indie games are not that great anyways and those that are good will be on Xbox One at some point if there`s enough demand for it.

Just take a look at the amount of indie games on XBLA. Majority of them on XBLA are the good indie games. PSN has more but other than Journey no indie game that is good IMO is not also on XBLA.



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Talal on 20 June 2013
superchunk said:
I wonder about Wii U. I know it has tools to nearly auto translate Android/iOS code to Wii U and I'm pretty sure it was also setup so self-publishing was ok.


He made it clear that he was not a fan of Nintendo.



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MB1025 on 20 June 2013

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sales2099 on 20 June 2013

Meh, doesn't change that Fez won't be on PS platforms anytime soon, if ever.

He is one of the guys with the cash flow to self publish. The vast majority NEED a publisher, so this type of news doesn't mean much in the end.



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MonstaMack on 20 June 2013
think-man said:
Im sure MS fans wont miss this game to much lol


I would defenitely get it, but not for much ($5? maybe.) I'll probably end up getting it on Steam at this rate.

Dissapointing, but after the whole patch fiasco with the 360 it makes sense.



It's just that simple.

eFKac on 20 June 2013

Yeah, he's probably one of the very few developers, that I would not really like, to be saying good things about Sony, it only makes Sony look bad :P nevermind the actual message.



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

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pokoko on 20 June 2013

Requiring a publisher in the current digital environment is ridiculous and archaic. All it does is to eat away money that should go to the developer. I have no idea why anyone would defend this, yet I've already seen people try.

I expect another reversal by Microsoft. I know they're trying very hard to please publishers but a publisher is nothing without developers. They'll have to allow self-publishing eventually and on that day I expect a lot of the same people defending their current policy to tell us how great it is that they're changing.