| coolguy said: bull people will not pay 100 more dollars for a weaker console.. sony will stomp ms |
That never hurt PS3 in Europe though?
What is the XBOne getting you for the extra $100 that the PS4 won't have? You can talk to your XBone and tell it to turn on through speech. You can startup Netflix, again by speaking to it.
Also, what is the point of turning on your XBOne without a controller if you're most likely going to pick up the controller to play right after anyways?
It's not worth the extra $100 in my opinion and it's easy to see why most people would agree.
Most people (including myself) have text to speech and voice command calling on their cell phones....I never use it. It hardly saves me "work" and Im so used to texting by hand because it's hardly an inconvenience to begin with. I look around and %99 of the people i see are using their hands to text and hands make phone calls. Controlling something by voice is not worth the $100 that the XBone will cost.
| ItNetPro said: Lesson in history for the neysayers... The Kinect is already a top selling device on the Xbox 360 outselling even COD. Kinect Adventures sold 20 Million copies on Xbox 360 its number one with the next highest selling game 6 million less. This tells me that with the exception of hard core gamers most people like the Kinect so that wont hinder sales. Next point PS4 people like to make is in the power. Last gen Wii was the weakest in the bunch yet it killed Xbox 360 and PS4 in sales. When PS3 and Xbox 360 are compared again PS3 wins for power but failed to take the number one spot in North America for sales. All multi platform games will look the same on both consoles and I would go so far to argue its possible that you still wont see any PS4 exclusives that look that look much better then any games published on the Xbox One. 3rd and final point people recognize value vs price. I feel that like the PS3 eventually people saw the value in the extra cost of the blue ray and were willing to spend the extra cash to buy a PS3 because of it. The same will hold true for the Xbox One with the Kinect bundled. Twenty million sold Kinect already has a fan base and as more people see it in action then will want it. Microsoft was smart going the all in one entertainment route. They took a page from the Wii's book with innovation that will draw a more mainstream audience while maintaining the value for most current gen hardcore Xbox 360 gamers. The only area they fell short was with their policies. The DRM system was designed to allow up to 10 people on your family list share your games no matter where they lived. I was planning to leverage that technology to convince both my mother and father to purchase Xbox Ones so they could share my library. I also intended to allow my uncle in California play my games as well. I understand only one person would be allowed to play any game at a time but this would encourage more of my family members to get involved and buy games. Instead the public has spoken and now that wont happen in my family. It could have brought us all closer together but NO the public was too caught up with having a physical disk they could trade in for pennies on the dollar at Gamestop. I personally blame Microsoft for not explaining why they implemented the DRM policy and how it would benefit the consumer. They dropped the ball and someone should get fired over there. In the end the public spoke and Microsoft listened. I predict Xbox One will remain the king this Gen in North America. Sony will continue to out sell them internationally. |
A lot of people bought Kinect...and a lot of people now have their Kinect in their cloests and their Xbox360 in their living rooms.
It was a novelty that didn't catch on. Take the Wii...lots of people bought a Wii. A lot less people are buying WiiU.
Hmmmm
Worldwide? Not happening.
NA? Will be interesting. The Xbox brand has certainly been tarnished and a lot of the early adopters have jumped ship to PS4. That being said MS avoided a catastrophe and are in the running. Honestly NA will be hugely exciting to watch this generation.
| BenVTrigger said: Hmmmm Worldwide? Not happening. NA? Will be interesting. The Xbox brand has certainly been tarnished and a lot of the early adopters have jumped ship to PS4. That being said MS avoided a catastrophe and are in the running. Honestly NA will be hugely exciting to watch this generation. |
As someone on the sales floor of an electronics retailer in NA during the PS3 release; the main thing I heard from customers as to why they're getting an Xbox360 and not a PS3 was a) It's $100-$150 more and b) There aren't as many excluvies as Box360 as it arrived a year later.
The price difference is now in the PS3's favor and since they're releasing at the same time at worse it wouldn't be far behind the XBone in terms of exclusives.
I expect Xbone now to take the lead in US.
RolStoppable said:
So much for the power of PlayStation, if not even ethomaz believes in it. |
I'm reasonable but I think the lead will be smaller than last gen for sure... PS4 will increase market share in US.
Withdrawing the DRM was a step in the right direction, but it still won't be enough for Microsoft. The Xbox One will still trail the PS4 in the US & UK, and it will be utterly destroyed everywhere else.
However, here is a list of things that Microsoft can do to boost the Xbox brand, and have a chance at staying competitive this next gen:
1) SKU without Kinect. By loosing the camera, Xbox can drop to a more competitive price point. Core gamers don't care about the peripheral, and they will not pay 100 dollars extra for it. Especially when the competition comes with better hardware. And don't expect casuals to buy consoles ever again. This isn't 2006. They are too busy with their iPads to care.
2) Focus on first party exclusives. It was games like Gears of War that gave the XBox 360 market dominance in its early years. After 2008-09 though, we stopped seeing new IPs from Microsoft. They need to focus on acquiring studios and delivering at least 1 great IP every other year or so.
3) Free online multiplayer. It is established by now that the PS4 has superior hardware, due to faster system memory and a beefier GPU. Xbox One needs to come up with a selling point. How about, free online multiplayer on Xbox Live? For games that don't use dedicated servers at least. Now that would shake things quite a bit.
happydolphin said:
Exclusive games/dlc, brand and marketing make a difference. In the US I can be sure that even 100$ more expensive the xbox has an edge. |
Even Sony can do the same.
PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m
Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m
No. NA most likely, UK perhaps, but rest of the world...sorry, but no. Unlike previous gen where Sony pulled all the bad moves, and still managed to outsell them at the end, things are completely different, way more favoring Sony this time around, so I don't see them pulling that off (to be clear, not year ago, I was pretty confident MS would win next-gen with ease).
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