Price cuts spike sales just for a little while, but the dust settles after a few weeks. Right now, the PS3, as MakingMusic said, is more expensive than the 360 and hasn't had a price cut for a while. It's still outselling the 360 WW without it's huge titles having arrived.

There is definitely a difference in consumer patterns between America and Europe. The American consumer goes to a store, sees the prices side by side and seeing that both systems have mostly the same games (alot of people by movie-based games and games not talked about on message boards), and chooses the cheaper option off the shelf. The European customer takes into account that their will be more micro-payments with the 360, like more expensive online service. It also doesn't help that MS is always getting in trouble by the EU for its business practices.

Lets also consider the fact most of the MS exclusives come to PC after a while. PC gaming has an edge in European markets and cannibalizes the 360 market. PS3 has many more games that won't see the light of day on PC.

I think both MS and Sony are in for another price cut this year. Both had profitable Q3 and are doing well enough in their other markets. I think the 40 gig will go down to $300 and the Premium will go to $300 or $280.

Sony has more big guns from different genres. MS really needs a non FPS game that will take the world by the storm like Halo, whether its a jRPG, platformer, etc.

 What?

Do you mean best lineup of games,  lower price without a hard drive/hd player/wifi

I think almost all people see the PS3 itself as the better product... right?

I guess it comes down to what the word product means for each person.

Still pretty confusing thing to say 

Whats wrong with my first post? I show roadkillers that the 360 did in fact beat the PS3. I also go on to say "If the 360 has a price cut and the PS3 doesn't then I think the 360 will outsell the PS3 AGAIN"

And I'm so certain of that bolded statement that I wrote "I think"...

damn my fanboyish views.. I must be an xbot zombie.  <-- Sarcasm

@Crazzyman
I think it is pretty funny that you call people fanboys when you are the one who came up with the phrase, "marioboys." Seems like a double standard to me.

At the moment, more than half of 360+PS3 combined sales come from America. Japan is a non-issue since the Wii will play the role of the PS2, and the PS3 gets the part of the Gamecube. Wii will have over 80% of the market there.
Europe will be very close between PS3 and 360. PS3 only beat 360 by 20000 units last week. Hardly dominating it.

And right now, the exclusives on the 360 are better than those on the PS3. Plus, most of the big hitters won't come out until late 2008 at the earliest, and those will probably only be available in Japan (like FFXIII and GT5).

Your prediction is just as crazy as you are. There is no way that the PS3 will sell 15 million units. Even 10 million is pushing it, since that would be more in less than a year than Sony sold in 15 months.

a) the ps3 is actually FURTHER behind the 360 NOW than it was when it launched! So 360 has outsold the ps3 since ps3's launch.

b) the ps3 is 7 million consoles behind the 360...at 100k/week in extra sales over 360, it would take 70 weeks to catch up...however, ps3 is currently only selling around 20k more a week, which means 350 weeks, or almost 7 years to catch up

c) consoles that come in 2nd by a large margin (ps360 to wii) don't tend to last more than 5 years...so ps3 needs to really start outselling the 360 if it wants to catch up before the ps4 comes out


now, all that said, i think ps3 is more likely to beat 360 than vice-versa

but, those are 3 of the reasons why people say 360 will beat the ps3...and you certaintly can't call them crazy for thinking so...the current-gen data just doesn't support a ps3>360 argument very well...the hope of future games and 'brand loyalty' and 'blu-ray purchasers' is what ps3 is hoping for to go against what the current data suggests

d) because 360 outsold PS3 last year. =) =) =) =)

The only crazy people are the ones that think they can predict the future and absolutely believe that the PS3 or the 360 will outsell the other and deny that the opposite could even possibly happen.

""a) the ps3 is actually FURTHER behind the 360 NOW than it was when it launched! So 360 has outsold the ps3 since ps3's launch. ""

==> considering all the bad things with the PS3 and the good with the Xbox360 last year, it is easy to understand.

""b) the ps3 is 7 million consoles behind the 360...at 100k/week in extra sales over 360, it would take 70 weeks to catch up...however, ps3 is currently only selling around 20k more a week, which means 350 weeks, or almost 7 years to catch up""

==> the +100k/week lead will start at Xmas 2008
At the end of 2009, the PS3 will be beyond the Xbox360.

Now we have :
PS3 : 400-500$
Xbox360 : 280-450$
the price configuration is a LOT better for the Xbox360
BUT
since this Xmas : PS3 > Xbox360 weekly and it will not change until another price drop.

""c) consoles that come in 2nd by a large margin (ps360 to wii) don't tend to last more than 5 years...so ps3 needs to really start outselling the 360 if it wants to catch up before the ps4 comes out""

==> referring to last gen is just .... senseless.
history doesn't repeat man.

I don't know about that.  I think the PS3 will increase in sales in 2008 vs 2007, possibly significantly.  The 360, even with a price cut in 2007, didn't have a *significantly* better performance.

The quality of the hardware -- the PS3 over the 360 -- is a reflection of the quality of their source companies -- Sony over Microsoft.  The biggest reason the 360 is staying alive is because of third party game support on the 360 vs that on the PS3.  And this is primarily due to two factors: the one-year head start and the initial price point of the PS3.

I don't think it's silly to estimate that the 360 will outsell the PS3.  I just think it will probably be wrong.