You missed my point ...

If the XBox 360's "Killer Apps" can not turn around a system's sales performance what makes you think that the PS3's "Killer Apps" will?

HappySqurriel, WHAT x360 killer`aps? =)))))))))))))))

to Bengabenga,

I agree GTA is more important than GT/FF because the game will be release pretty soon in 08, that is not the case of the 2 others.
But remember, it is YOU, that bring theses games in the discussion, not me.

to ikilledkenny
1. They are only making a profit on PS2 and PSP. Once the PS2 finally dies, the division will lose money again. PS3 is still hemoraging cash.

==> But when the PS2 will be dead,
cant we expect the PS3 to bring some money to Sony ?
I doubt they will lose money for eternity ...

2. I never said it would be useless, I said that its impact would be reduced because the others would cut their price as well.

==> As the Xbox360 price drop will be reduced by a PS3 price drop
Both console are suffering eachother ...

3. They are being dominated by the Wii every week. Weeks like last week, when there is no big releases, will have similar sales for 360 and PS3. When GTA4 comes out, PS3 will be buried by 360 in America. Plus, 50k sales IS abysmal. Outsold 3:1 by the Wii. And at 50k vs. 80k, that is still a more than 1.5:1 more for Microsoft.

==> so let focus about NA,
a/ IF 50k is abysmal, 80k is too ...
b/ The Wii is dominating the PS3 as it is dominating the Xbox360, no reason to bring it in the discussion...
c/ I dont see why a week without release is boosting the PS3 sales over the Xbox360 sales. Let's wait for the DMC4 release ...
d/ Considering the PS3 is a more recent console, it has more sale potential. At the opposite, the Xbox360 is here since 2 years : everybody could have bought the console before. It is why the further price drop will have limited effect compared to the PS3 price drop.
e/ The Arcade sku is really lower in term of price but it is direclty competting agaisnt the Wii for the casual crowd : it is why the Xbox360 sales are so close to the PS3 sales : it is mainly selling to hardcore when the PS2 was selling to both.

Libellule,

I'll gladly accept more suggestions, but I think these were THE main games that made the PS2 so gigantic.

Crazzyman has a list ready containing numerous games that definitely won't be system sellers. Million sellers yes, but you have to take into account that most of these games serve the same crowd (again: except for FF and GT).

So in no way I'm saying PS3 will bomb completely, the topic is whether the 360 could outsell PS3 this year and I think it can because the real killer-apps won't arrive until 2009.

@BengaBenga,
WHAT killer`aps PS3 had in December 2007?
But it outsold x360 thnx to:
Folklore, Ratchet, Uncharted, HS, Warhawk, Lair, GT5:P, TC4, UT3 PS3 OUTSOLD x360. =)

Oh cool, how is Haze?

Haze will be released in NEAR future, which also will effect weekly PS3 sales atleast by 1-3k. =)

Honestly, I don't see solid evidence for EITHER console beating the other...I do think it could go either way...it really all depends on the price cuts and perhaps additional advertising for software.

2007 was close to a tie...but that doesn't mean 360 is dying, or that the PS3's slow software selection was to blame...I don't see much on the plate for either console this year either...nothing that screams a beatdown against the other.

MGS4 on the PS3 is good, but I doubt it'll break records. GTA is big for both consoles...it was grown on the Playstation demographic, but a lot of those have 360s now, plus the 360 has the big DLC for GTA.

I'm pretty sure they'll be going neck-in-neck this year...it wouldn't surprise me if the PS3 passed the 360 by the beginning of next year...but I'm betting it won't.

If Europe is an issue just use NA & Japan numbers, which I believe would still show 360 won.