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That's not even remotely accurate for Goku. I saw that video and they got it all wrong.

They had base Goku as lifting only 40 tons which is just a huge inconsistency as when he was a little child he pushed a huge boulder weighing probably 100 tons+.

They got SSJ4's power by multiplying it off of the SSJ3 Goku in the Buu saga even though in GT Goku without any Super Saiyan form at all was stronger than his SSJ3 DBZ self. So they should have multiplied it again from that point.

They calculated Goku's speed off a feat he did in the Saiyan saga and obviously his speed was levels beyond that by the end of DBZ.

They calculated Goku's toughness based on the bomb in Android 16 which is meant to kill Goku, even though this was a Goku that Dr Gero didn't even know could turn SSJ, so wouldn't do squat to the Goku in the main timeline.

They have the SSJ2 form as being only twice as strong as SSJ1 which makes no sense. Gohan was being beaten up by Cell, Cell later goes full power, later dies and comes back far more powerful than before, Gohan defeats him while injured. That's alot more than double.

SSJ4 being only 10x stronger doesnt make sense either. As a SSJ3 Goku was weaker than Baby, Baby turned into an Oozaru and was 10x stronger, Goku turns SSJ4 and was stronger still so obviously gre over 10x more powerful.



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"His sneeze can blow away solar systems,"

No he did that because he was aided by Myxzptlk's magic dust, that's all. Cell said that he could blow away an etire Solar System and was weaker than a SSJ2. Obviously SSJ3 Goku or those stronger are capable of much more.

Bills for example could destory a Galaxy.

"Loaded up porbably about 12.000.000. You just added a 0 to many."

No it is 120,000,000.



ghettoglamour said:
Lol people I love how serious you are about this

Me too. :D



chapset said:
What about the new super sayan god


That requires A LOT of speculation, which probably cannot be anywhere near accurate at all. plus plus you need 6 pure hearted saiyans, and that means external help which I don't think can be used here.



There was a comic that even Batman beat Superman cause he has a weakness. So evidently, Goku can beat Superman cause he doesn't have any, heck even Krillin can beat Superman lol.

Weakness aside, I still think Goku can beat Superman. Wizard magazine did a Goku vs Superman long ago and I believe they even said Goku would win. (could be wrong, its been awhile)



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LemonSlice said:
ghettoglamour said:
Lol people I love how serious you are about this

Me too. :D

This is a serious debate 



 

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Vegetto is the most powerful being in the DB universe - just a quick guide for people to understand it better: he's not invulnerable yet he can't die, Toriyama stated that he could have killed Bu (kid) if given chance, and Super Bu in the blink of an eye and that he turned SS just because. Veggeto only only could be matched(or perhaps surpassed) by Broly IF he could control his power (which simply knows no imaginable limits), he can manipulate energy and by just using his power he could unconsciously distortion reality and of course, destroy the universe yet he has a weakness, he can only fight in this (known) dimension.

Now i don't fully understand this debate simply because i know no shit about Superman (besides what everyone knows, you know 'common' stuff) so could anyone explain me some :( i've always been curious.



Wow pretty much everything you said was completely made up.



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