But that 600 dollar price point was steep. my gut is saying Sony for thinking we wanted a 600 dollar console but the more I hear about go buy 360 if you play offline or rent games I don't know kinda crazy arrogance kinda close

xbox one is worst

Short answer: lulz no


Long answer: Sony stopped being arrogant in 2006?


"I believe that the Sixaxis controller offers game designers and developers far more opportunity for future innovation than rumble ever did. Now, rumble I think was the last generation feature;" - 2007

”The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance. Those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress." - 2007

"It’s probably too cheap…" - 2007

"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it." - 2007

"The first five million are going to buy it (PS3), whatever it is, even [if] it didn't have games." - 2007

"Microsoft does not concern us. Microsoft is not a technology company." - 2007

"A bit pricey." (talking about the Wii) - 2007

“[Nintendo 3DS] is a great babysitting tool" - 2011

"I would like my car to fly and make me breakfast, but that’s an unrealistic expectation." - 2007

”PlayStation brand carries so much cachet with customers. In many ways it’s the most authentic brand in the games industry.” - 2012

"[Wii] is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops." - 2007

"It's difficult to talk about Nintendo, because we don't look at their console as being a competitor.” - 2009

"This is not meant in terms of numbers, or who's got the biggest install base, or who's selling most in any particular week or month, but I'd like to think that we continue official leadership in this industry,” - 2009

”The Xbox - again, I can't come up with one word to fit. You need a word that describes something that lacks longevity.” - 2009

”The environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry” - 2009


And then, if you want to look solely at quotes leading up to the PS3 launch...

"[PS3 is] for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one”

”Xbox is 1.5, the PS is more than what I was expecting, so it's 3.5. That's the difference."

”Did you see the movie 'The Matrix'? Same interface. Same concept.”

"I believe we made the most beautiful thing in the world. Nobody would criticize a renowned architect's blueprint that the position of a gate is wrong. It's the same as that."

"The PlayStation [3] is not a game machine. We've never once called it a game machine,"

"The PS3 will instill discipline in our children and adults alike. Everyone will know discipline."

I went ahead and bolded the best/most far fetched ones... which turned out to be most of them. And a lot of them are from 2007 or later. They have really shat on Nintendo over the last couple years with some of their comments.

So look at some of that stuff. Has MS really said anything as bad as "5 million people will buy it even if we have no games"?

When Mattrick was asked about people wanting Xbone to work without Internet, what if he'd replied "well hey man i wish my console could make breakfast and fly me to work but it doesn't"? Or what if he'd responded "yeah well that's how we designed it. would you question the painting of Michelangelo in the Sistine Chapel? It's the same as that". LOL people here would probably pop blood vessels they'd be so pissed.

Wii is a "lollipop"? A market where Sony wins is truly best for the industry? Nintendo is not competition?

What if they came out and called the PS4 "PS 3.5"? A high $500 price tag is "almost too cheap" but it's ok because "people will get 2nd jobs to afford it".

I could go on and on here. Classic, hilarious stuff. Not even close to MS.

I didn't say Microsoft wasn't arrogant. I just said that Sony was more arrogant than Microsoft (one need not look any further than J_Allard's post to see that).

he didn't TELL you, he said you would want to.

Different wording= different meaning.

At the moment the backlash might be comparable but the reason for the backlash is different.
Sony was talking big at the time, arrogant, 'we are the best' bla bla bla.

Microsoft on the other hand is getting backlash because of new ideas that consumers won't like and their reaction to that is... arrogance.

So it may be on the same level at the moment but microsoft had better tread very carefully from now on, it's been digging it's own grave outside of the US and it's time for some positive spins or news.

The level of arrogance and myopic vision is the same.

Sony's $600 "supercomputer tech" media box shit was dumb as bricks, driven by a blatantly dishonest smoke-and-mirrors campaign set to oversell the convoluted Cell. But there was still a chance for the system to improve over time, as pricing went down and devs got used to working with the technology. The DRM and the doubling down on Kinect is worse to me, because both would weigh on my decision to buy a Xone at any price, let alone $100 more than the PS4. The "watercooler" TV and media nonsesne just adds insult to injury.

MS today is as overconfident as Sony was back then. They're so sure that they've got their current-gen audience on lock that they can go hog wild and get away with it. I don't think it'll work out any better for MS than it did with Sony.

I'd say it's slightly worse for Microsoft. Because, at least at the time, Sony had every right to be over confident. They had released the two most successful consoles of all time. But Microsoft is overconfident without anything really backing that confidence. Sure, the 360 was a success, but no where near PS1 or PS2 levels, and it's now even in last place of the three current generation.

So I think their overconfidence is very misplaced, and they even had an opportunity to learn from Sony's mistakes, yet they are simply repeating them. What Microsoft doesn't realize is that if they lose the American market to Sony and Nintendo, they'll lose about 70% of their audience. Yikes.