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Also madden and gh3 for 360 were just released in the last 6 months, so you nintendo fanboys can keep making excuses!!!!



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it's not so much more time to sell segajon - it's time to develop, release and sell. Bearing in mind that 90% of third parties didn't want to know about the Wii and off the top of my head I think there was only Ubisoft and Activision that released games for the Wii release.

Then there was the time when third parties were waiting for developer kits then followed the cheap port period - i'd say it's only the last quarter (certainly for europe) when the decent titles hit the Wii.

Is it really any wonder why Nintendo have 7 first party titles in there? IMO they had to do it on their own and give out a well the We'll support it on our own until everyone else realises it's not just a fad, toy or gimmick and gets their acts together kinda vibe.

I reckon 08 will be the year for that - 360 has sold good software numbers though and credit where it's due, they have acheived gaining some market share by getting the 360 out first, that was their plan and it worked pretty well.



 


SMG will pass Halo 3 very soon. Its selling more than double Halo 3 in America and completely trouncing it in all other territories. With Brawl and Wii Fit on the way, 360's slight lead won't last very long at all.

 



Wii Play is not bundle, Why it don´t appear in your list?



^^^ I don't know why he doesn't have wii play. I guess he is trying to say it is bundled with a controller,lol



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Segajon why dont you go back to when the 360 was the same age as the wii and then do a comparison to the wii now.That is the only way to do this without anyone complaining about how long a console has been out. I can be sure the difference would be huge.

Halo 3 wouldnt be out, along with a few others and the rest would not be anywhere near where they are now.



 


 

Last sentence wasn't necessary, and Nintendo has been in the industry for a long time so its not surprising... because they have more highly recognized titles than any other 3rd party game on the system.

but both consoles are doing good :D




And I wouldn't count wii play as bundled because its not bundled with the console.




Townzy_89 said:

360

1: Halo 3 - 7.12

2: GOW - 4.94 

3: COD 4 - 4.50

4: Assasins Creed - 3.25

5: Oblivion - 2.36

6: GH3 - 2.16 

7: GRAW - 2.08

8: Vegas - 2.05

9: Madden 08 - 2.02

10: COD 2 - 2.01

 Total Sales -  32.5/ Av 3.25m

First Party Games - 2

Wii 

1: SMG - 5.48

2: Zelda - 4.44 

3: MP8 - 4.41

4: Mario And Sonic - 2.99

5: Wario Ware - 2.22

6: SPM - 2.14 

7: Big Brain Acadamy - 1.91

8: GH3 - 1.55

9: Resi 4 - 1.45

10: Wii Fit - 1.28

Total Sales -  27.9/ Av 2.79m

First Party Games - 7

 Dont give me shit about Wii has been out half the time, it has sold 3m+ more consoles that more than makes up for it. 

 

 


No, I WILL give you shit about it, because your reasoning is plain shitty.

1. Time is a huge factor in game sales, as people tend not to buy many games at once. Typically, they buy a new game, play it, then buy a new one.

2. In that 1st year, Microsoft sold about 6 million consoles. At the start of 2007, the 360 had a roughly 5million console lead over the Wii, and held that lead (with dwindling numbers, of course) for the next 8 months. Nintendo's had a lead over the 360 for about 5 months, and a 3 million console lead for a few weeks. Thus, looking at the size of userbases month-by-month, the 360 had the market to itself for 12 months, clearly led the Wii for another 8 (from Nov 06-Jun 07), was roughly tied (a difference of a few hundred thousand) for 4 (July-Oct 07),  and behind for 3 (Nov 07- Jan 08). That gives a net difference of 17 months in which the 360 had larger user base than the Wii, with a net advantage of 3-5 million for half of that, while the Wii has had an advantage of 1-3 million for just 3 months (at most).

The only way to do a fair comparison is during those few months when the total sales were tied, or by looking at monthly (not total) attatch ratios. I've no doubt that the 360 would still win out, though, as it's base has more "hardcore" base (who buy more games in a month than my in-laws will buy in their lifetimes), it has more very solid games, and it's base is likely a bit more affluent (as they are willing to blow $400 on a game console).



corrected Wii list


1. Wii Play - 9.58

2: SMG - 5.48

3: Zelda - 4.44

4: MP8 - 4.41

5: Mario And Sonic - 2.99

6. Wii Sports Japan - 2.78

7: Wario Ware - 2.22

8: SPM - 2.14

9: Big Brain Acadamy - 1.91

10: GH3 - 1.55



Total Sales - 37.5/ Av 3.75m

First Party Games - 8