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Stefl1504 said:
allenmaher said:

So the base prices of systems have been announced, but what is the real cost of systems?

  Wii U XB One PS4 Low end Gaming PC (Alienware x51 base model) High End Gaming PC
Base System 300-350 500 400 700  
Second Screen Option Included Tablet or Smartphone 300+ Vita 250 not Applicable  
Online Play Included 60/year x 5 years = 300 50/year x 5 years =250 no extra cost  
Additional Controllers

Wiimote Plus 35x4 =$140

Pro Controller 50 x 1 =$50

??? ??? game controler 40 to 120  
Motion Control included in Wiimotes Included in Connect Move ??? not applicable  
Additional Storage USB 1 Tb $100-150 USB 1 Tb $100-150 ??? included (1 Tb)  
Total 590-690     740 +  

Can anyone fill in the blanks?

I just wanted to mention, Motion Controls are applicable to PCs, because well, I use  my DualShock 3(Sixaxis) on my PC... I also know that PCs are Kinectable and can use WiiMotes/Moves, a second screen comes easy via a second monitor. Also, did you include periferals for the PC? (Mouse, Keyboard, a first Screen?) Additionaly, have you included the lower game price for the games? No? Well, then i suggest rethinking this price listing. Also, you do not need a second screen/motion controls to be playing a valid game. So this is all really hard to calculate, maybe you should integrate different tiers of "gaming-hardware-pricing".


I know some motion hardware can be adapted, e.g. wiimotes but little of it is supported by the software, though I will look into that further.  The PC listed has keyboard and mouse included.  Since no consoles have TV's included and a pc can run on a modern TV I excluded that for the comparison.

All consoles made a big deal out of second screen capabilities in E3 so I thought that a valid comparison point.  If you can think of a game on PC that incorporates a second screen function via another device as opposed to a second monitor option I would be happy to include it.

Yes it is hard to compare all of this, but the gap between consoles and PC prices does appear to be narrowing.



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Zkuq said:
HikenNoAce said:
TC, add the cost of games for the PC. PS4 will get PS4 games for free.

Not even nearly all of them. Also, PC games are cheaper than console games. Besides, the cost of games is not something you mention specifically; What you mention is if you somehow save from games. I suppose you could mention the price of games in the chart and then maybe add a note that PS4 gets some games for free from PS+.


Depends on them. Some of them are the same price. Others are marginally cheaper.



allenmaher said:
Stefl1504 said:
allenmaher said:

So the base prices of systems have been announced, but what is the real cost of systems?

  Wii U XB One PS4 Low end Gaming PC (Alienware x51 base model) High End Gaming PC
Base System 300-350 500 400 700  
Second Screen Option Included Tablet or Smartphone 300+ Vita 250 not Applicable  
Online Play Included 60/year x 5 years = 300 50/year x 5 years =250 no extra cost  
Additional Controllers

Wiimote Plus 35x4 =$140

Pro Controller 50 x 1 =$50

??? ??? game controler 40 to 120  
Motion Control included in Wiimotes Included in Connect Move ??? not applicable  
Additional Storage USB 1 Tb $100-150 USB 1 Tb $100-150 ??? included (1 Tb)  
Total 590-690     740 +  

Can anyone fill in the blanks?

I just wanted to mention, Motion Controls are applicable to PCs, because well, I use  my DualShock 3(Sixaxis) on my PC... I also know that PCs are Kinectable and can use WiiMotes/Moves, a second screen comes easy via a second monitor. Also, did you include periferals for the PC? (Mouse, Keyboard, a first Screen?) Additionaly, have you included the lower game price for the games? No? Well, then i suggest rethinking this price listing. Also, you do not need a second screen/motion controls to be playing a valid game. So this is all really hard to calculate, maybe you should integrate different tiers of "gaming-hardware-pricing".


I know some motion hardware can be adapted, e.g. wiimotes but little of it is supported by the software, though I will look into that further.  The PC listed has keyboard and mouse included.  Since no consoles have TV's included and a pc can run on a modern TV I excluded that for the comparison.

All consoles made a big deal out of second screen capabilities in E3 so I thought that a valid comparison point.  If you can think of a game on PC that incorporates a second screen function via another device as opposed to a second monitor option I would be happy to include it.

Yes it is hard to compare all of this, but the gap between consoles and PC prices does appear to be narrowing.

I can't think of a game that really utilises another device fully integrated into the game... I can think of games that offer so much more if you have a second screen though (Supreme Commander). Okay, the exclussion of TV/Monitor may be valid... Looking that most consoles (not sure about that, I know the PS3 can do it, and I wasn't able to find a satisfying way to connect my Wii to my Monitor, but these are not next gen consoles...) can use either a Monitors or TVs, and so do PCs.

EDIT: Also, I might add, my current system is better than the x51 and has cost me 579€ (without OS - which came for a whooping 9€ (windows 8)), though I should add that I assembled it myself



What about gamers who need to sit too close to the screen when they play on their PC's in a cramped room and ruin their eyesight? Opticians and glasses are really expensive you know. That's easily another few hundred bucks there initially plus the annual cost of sight tests and adjustments.

PC gaming is expensive and stupid, I thought people learned this in the 7th gen.



End of 2016 hardware sales:

Wii U: 15 million. PS4: 54 million. One: 30 million. 3DS: 64.8 million. PSVita: 15.2 million.

Gaming PC : 5 years at most then need to be replaced
Console : now 7-8 years of life

PS plus : 50*7 = 350$ - (at least) 12*7 games
350$ - 84 games (15$ average)
350$ - 1260$ worth of games

 

PS plus is not a cost, as its name implies, it's a plus.

Edit : Ps eye and controller are 60$ each (official ps4 website)



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These topics are dumb because you include (x4) for controllers and other nonsense crap. Additional controllers shouldn't be included in the first place.



This is all you need to consider.

WiiU = $300 to $350.
XBone = $500 + $60(Live).
PS4 = $400 + $60(PS+).
PC = $700 to $2000 +$60(controller).

Any more is bullshit and unnecessary for comparison.



Yeah... we can.

DualShock 4 costs $59, the PS Eye (for motion control) costs $59 too and PS4 can use any internal 2.5" SATA HDD...



allenmaher said:

So the base prices of systems have been announced, but what is the real cost of systems?

  Wii U XB One PS4 Low end Gaming PC (Alienware x51 base model) High End Gaming PC
Base System 300-350 500 400 700  
Second Screen Option Included Tablet or Smartphone 300+ Vita 250 not Applicable  
Online Play Included 60/year x 5 years = 300 50/year x 5 years =250 no extra cost  
Additional Controllers

Wiimote Plus 35x4 =$140

Pro Controller 50 x 1 =$50

??? ??? game controler 40 to 120  
Motion Control included in Wiimotes Included in Connect Move ??? not applicable  
Additional Storage USB 1 Tb $100-150 USB 1 Tb $100-150 ??? included (1 Tb)  
Total 590-690     740 +  

Can anyone fill in the blanks?

I can add something for you. How about all the games you are going to get for free with PS Plus and Live Gold. Forgot about those didn't you?



I've always seen paying for a high end gaming PC as like paying a premium to get to play what console gamers will be playing in the generation after. (speaking graphically of course)