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antfromtashkent said:
^actually I was shocked yesterday when one of my friends who is not a gamer AT ALL started a conversation with me about how the new Xbox is going to be bad and what is MS thinking.... This whole thing is blowing up beyond just hardcore guys now.

lol I'm pretty sure you were really shocked by that :)

You know, stating this and believing that the DRM thing is bothering more than the Sony loyalists and few hardcore gamers will not make it more real.

Read this : I have 2 PS3 friends that are going to buy an Xbox One as they are not sticking on this DRM thing only and are looking at other aspects. See, nothing shocking here, it is normal to have people talking about it. As far as the "negative" impact, it is only on few hardcore and the people who were already not interrested by the Xbox One anyway (I'm not making numbers here, just look at who is constantly blasting the Xbox One on this site for instance and look at their signature, nothing out of the ordinary).

On the opposite a lot of people who are not "hardcore" gamers (up to your definition) are also looking for the Xbox One now...





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DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


WOW....this post is just....wow...so disrespectful of what you call "broke" or "cheap" people smh. BIll gates a billionare wears JC penny clothes where a outfit is like $30 so I guess he is also "cheap" that was silly logic from me but what you just said is pretty much on the same wave length. The consumer has ALWAYS went with trying to find the best deals possible. That is not being cheap that is being NORMAL, most NORMAL families shop smart....people with REAL money don't always buy the NEW they are to smart for that hence the reason they have REAL MONEY. They buy what they need and some things that they may want.

I don't like responding to posts like this because they just scream a LOT of I will say "bad" things. and I have to wod myself very carefully. To say that "broke" people will buy the PS4 and not many games and the folks with "money" will go with MS is silly. I couldgo as far to say well MS will be the one that suffers seeing as you can SUPPOSEDLY share ONE game with 9 other "family" members just by letting them log into your account. Hey why buy the game if I can just download it on 9 other systems and share it with freinds and fmaily?

But anyway let me stop here and say please don't be so disrespectful towards those who just happen to see things different than you by calling them cheap and broke...it says a lot about your character...just my opinion.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


WOW....this post is just....wow...so disrespectful of what you call "broke" or "cheap" people smh. BIll gates a billionare wears JC penny clothes where a outfit is like $30 so I guess he is also "cheap" that was silly logic from me but what you just said is pretty much on the same wave length. The consumer has ALWAYS went with trying to find the best deals possible. That is not being cheap that is being NORMAL, most NORMAL families shop smart....people with REAL money don't always buy the NEW they are to smart for that hence the reason they have REAL MONEY. They buy what they need and some things that they may want.

I don't like responding to posts like this because they just scream a LOT of I will say "bad" things. and I have to wod myself very carefully. To say that "broke" people will buy the PS4 and not many games and the folks with "money" will go with MS is silly. I couldgo as far to say well MS will be the one that suffers seeing as you can SUPPOSEDLY share ONE game with 9 other "family" members just by letting them log into your account. Hey why buy the game if I can just download it on 9 other systems and share it with freinds and fmaily?

But anyway let me stop here and say please don't be so disrespectful towards those who just happen to see things different than you by calling them cheap and broke...it says a lot about your character...just my opinion.

I'm not disagreeing with your point about respect :)
Now he is right about one thing, you must admit it : All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out.



J_Allard said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
J_Allard said:
I didn't watch the video.. I assume that as a MS exec, he answered that people should go out and buy a PS4 instead?


Nah....he told them to basically just stick with or get a 360 instead....

Of course he did, it's the only logical answer.

If someone asked Kaz what system someone should buy if they don't want to pay to play online, is he going to answer WiiU, or is he going to answer PS3? And when he does answer PS3, are all these people with Sony avatars/signatures going to call him arrogant or crap on him like they are doing Mattrick? Not a snowballs chance in hell lol.


Which is why I agree. He is still promoting MS and their systems. Just saying the Xbox One is not for you. Do I think it is good to basically say that to potential customers...no. But do I understand where heis coming from without a doubt. But that would have been HILARIOUS had he said get a PS4 or Wii U lol.



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TheBlackNaruto said:


Which is why I agree. He is still promoting MS and their systems. Just saying the Xbox One is not for you. Do I think it is good to basically say that to potential customers...no. But do I understand where heis coming from without a doubt. But that would have been HILARIOUS had he said get a PS4 or Wii U lol.

Hillarious for sure :)
Also, I'm not sure if he would keep his job after that!



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Imaginedvl said:
TheBlackNaruto said:


WOW....this post is just....wow...so disrespectful of what you call "broke" or "cheap" people smh. BIll gates a billionare wears JC penny clothes where a outfit is like $30 so I guess he is also "cheap" that was silly logic from me but what you just said is pretty much on the same wave length. The consumer has ALWAYS went with trying to find the best deals possible. That is not being cheap that is being NORMAL, most NORMAL families shop smart....people with REAL money don't always buy the NEW they are to smart for that hence the reason they have REAL MONEY. They buy what they need and some things that they may want.

I don't like responding to posts like this because they just scream a LOT of I will say "bad" things. and I have to wod myself very carefully. To say that "broke" people will buy the PS4 and not many games and the folks with "money" will go with MS is silly. I couldgo as far to say well MS will be the one that suffers seeing as you can SUPPOSEDLY share ONE game with 9 other "family" members just by letting them log into your account. Hey why buy the game if I can just download it on 9 other systems and share it with freinds and fmaily?

But anyway let me stop here and say please don't be so disrespectful towards those who just happen to see things different than you by calling them cheap and broke...it says a lot about your character...just my opinion.

I'm not disagreeing with your point about respect :)
Now he is right about one thing, you must admit it : All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out.

Well I am not going to saying ALL the people in here are saying it...maybe one or two have said it. And that alone makes them not realistic lol. Knowing NOTHING about something but saying you were getting it before hand anyway is just....well silly lol. No complaints from me there lol.



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Imaginedvl said:
antfromtashkent said:
^actually I was shocked yesterday when one of my friends who is not a gamer AT ALL started a conversation with me about how the new Xbox is going to be bad and what is MS thinking.... This whole thing is blowing up beyond just hardcore guys now.

lol I'm pretty sure you were really shocked by that :)

You know, stating this and believing that the DRM thing is bothering more than the Sony loyalists and few hardcore gamers will not make it more real.

Read this : I have 2 friends that are going to buy an Xbox One as they are not sticking on this DRM thing only and are looking at other aspects. See, nothing shocking here, it is normal to have people talking about it. As far as the "negative" impact, it is only on few hardcore and the people who were already not interrested by the Xbox One anyway (I'm not making numbers here, just look at who is constantly blasting the Xbox One on this site for instance and look at their signature, nothing out of the ordinary).

On the opposite a lot of people who are not "hardcore" gamers (up to your definition) are also looking for the Xbox One now...



*looks around*

What are you talking about? I just said what happened to me personally and it was related to a post in this thread... I guess you would have to know the people i hang out with to know what i mean... :P

I dont always bash the Xbox one, but when I do its only because people think I am.



Euphoria14 said:
brendude13 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Performing my daily run through of Yahoo and came across this. ~4,300 comments already and they are not positive.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/microsoft-gamers-no-internet-buy-360-172308365.html

That's only a very small hardcore minority though.

One of the people complaining is 60 years old! O_o

Sorry, I was being sarcastic, even though I knew I didn't make it clear.



Multimedialover said:
JinxRake said:
DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


Funny how all apologists think this is only because of money.

No no, candies, this is about a principle that we rally against. That's where the backlash is coming from, not from the problem of money, as many of you so narrowly believe. It's the principle that a company will tell me what I can or cannot do with something I bought, it's the principle that giant corporations dictate on what terms I can or cannot enjoy the things that I give them money for.

I can sell a BluRay disc if I chose to, I can sell any of my many books, I can sell any of my music CDs, I can freaking sell my car, any device in my home, I can even damn well sell my chinchillas...I have that right and that option. Gaming is the only bloated industry that's got its head so far up its ass that it sees it as a GOOD idea to treat its customers like criminals instead of improving services. And the moment I'll see that I can't play games anymore because servers are shut down, or when I'll see I'll get increasingly stripped down games because I just have to DEAL with it as I'm unable to get my money back from a disc, that's when I'll quit gaming altogether and just stick to reading. And it'll probably happen too, because people are in love with corporations that will do anything to suck more money from them and give nothing back.

But hey, at least you'll play as a walrus in Call of Duty 21.


Actually no.

 

Its the poor people who pirate that have caused this. Christ it was estimated that 3 mill copies of Halo 3 were pirated and I believe 2 mill of Gears Of War 2. 

In my local area there is 5 Facebook sellers who sell pirated games. On Facebook. £5 each. £10 each for new games. CRAZY!

Im sure there are those out there who dont earn alot of money but are honest and buy used games or new. But there is a huge population who have chipped consoles and play pirated games.

 

So instead of rallying against a principle rally against Piracy. The movie industry is almost set to become country locked by 2014. Bluray only.

Hence why all Bluray players come with the ability to connect to the internet. 

 

PS4 will 100% have 3rd party publishers using some kind of fee if you buy the game and someone else already registered it to their PSN account. Ubisoft already said at E3 they can do this on PS4. And they followed with it is actually need to save the industy with its ever increasing development costs. 

 

Microsoft of course are looking after their bank balance, but this kind of thing would not have been on the table had digital theft not been so HIGH. 

 

Personally Ive never Pirated. I hold a good job and have a great internet connection. So do all my friends. 

We are all getting Xbox One, because we dont mind Microsoft stopping the sad pathetic billion $ Piracy industry.

I can deal with digitally lending my games to friends in my family list. For no charge.

I can deal with trading my crap games in at designated stores ( not that I trade much at all ) .

But also I love the idea of always on. I love that my phone is, I love that my Tablet is and I love the possibilities of The One and its online functions. 

 

Its the last industry to adopt this, so finnnnnnaaaaalllllllyyyyyyyyy we have it. YAY!!!!

PS4 and The One are actually going for 2 different demographics. 

Someone like me who wants more than a videogame toy, is finally glad to see a console that truly attempts to unify my living room. Whilst providing me with amazing exclusive games.



I think this is one of the best comments. I agree with others concerns but I also understand how bad used gamers and cheap people have ruined the industry. People only think about their rights. Not about the industry and if it will even be around if they keep leaching off of it.



Mr Puggsly said:
oniyide said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Sometimes I see someone responded to me and I think maybe I'm going to have an intelligent discussion.

Then you see its some crap like this...

So...is the 360 not a different console?

I obviously meant any other relevant console would be an option since the One is the only online required console.

Its annoying to always elaborate because you're pretending you don't have common sense.


nope, im messing with you because its fun to watch a grown man/woman get upset over video games. But 360 is a different console than the One that is a fact.