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As soon as the music at the end played I was thinking of the nostalgia critc. LOL



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TheBlackNaruto said:
J_Allard said:
I didn't watch the video.. I assume that as a MS exec, he answered that people should go out and buy a PS4 instead?


Nah....he told them to basically just stick with or get a 360 instead....

Of course he did, it's the only logical answer.

If someone asked Kaz what system someone should buy if they don't want to pay to play online, is he going to answer WiiU, or is he going to answer PS3? And when he does answer PS3, are all these people with Sony avatars/signatures going to call him arrogant or crap on him like they are doing Mattrick? Not a snowballs chance in hell lol.



antfromtashkent said:
^actually I was shocked yesterday when one of my friends who is not a gamer AT ALL started a conversation with me about how the new Xbox is going to be bad and what is MS thinking.... This whole thing is blowing up beyond just hardcore guys now.

lol I'm pretty sure you were really shocked by that :)

You know, stating this and believing that the DRM thing is bothering more than the Sony loyalists and few hardcore gamers will not make it more real.

Read this : I have 2 PS3 friends that are going to buy an Xbox One as they are not sticking on this DRM thing only and are looking at other aspects. See, nothing shocking here, it is normal to have people talking about it. As far as the "negative" impact, it is only on few hardcore and the people who were already not interrested by the Xbox One anyway (I'm not making numbers here, just look at who is constantly blasting the Xbox One on this site for instance and look at their signature, nothing out of the ordinary).

On the opposite a lot of people who are not "hardcore" gamers (up to your definition) are also looking for the Xbox One now...





DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


WOW....this post is just....wow...so disrespectful of what you call "broke" or "cheap" people smh. BIll gates a billionare wears JC penny clothes where a outfit is like $30 so I guess he is also "cheap" that was silly logic from me but what you just said is pretty much on the same wave length. The consumer has ALWAYS went with trying to find the best deals possible. That is not being cheap that is being NORMAL, most NORMAL families shop smart....people with REAL money don't always buy the NEW they are to smart for that hence the reason they have REAL MONEY. They buy what they need and some things that they may want.

I don't like responding to posts like this because they just scream a LOT of I will say "bad" things. and I have to wod myself very carefully. To say that "broke" people will buy the PS4 and not many games and the folks with "money" will go with MS is silly. I couldgo as far to say well MS will be the one that suffers seeing as you can SUPPOSEDLY share ONE game with 9 other "family" members just by letting them log into your account. Hey why buy the game if I can just download it on 9 other systems and share it with freinds and fmaily?

But anyway let me stop here and say please don't be so disrespectful towards those who just happen to see things different than you by calling them cheap and broke...it says a lot about your character...just my opinion.



The absence of evidence is NOT the evidence of absence...

PSN: StlUzumaki23

TheBlackNaruto said:
DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


WOW....this post is just....wow...so disrespectful of what you call "broke" or "cheap" people smh. BIll gates a billionare wears JC penny clothes where a outfit is like $30 so I guess he is also "cheap" that was silly logic from me but what you just said is pretty much on the same wave length. The consumer has ALWAYS went with trying to find the best deals possible. That is not being cheap that is being NORMAL, most NORMAL families shop smart....people with REAL money don't always buy the NEW they are to smart for that hence the reason they have REAL MONEY. They buy what they need and some things that they may want.

I don't like responding to posts like this because they just scream a LOT of I will say "bad" things. and I have to wod myself very carefully. To say that "broke" people will buy the PS4 and not many games and the folks with "money" will go with MS is silly. I couldgo as far to say well MS will be the one that suffers seeing as you can SUPPOSEDLY share ONE game with 9 other "family" members just by letting them log into your account. Hey why buy the game if I can just download it on 9 other systems and share it with freinds and fmaily?

But anyway let me stop here and say please don't be so disrespectful towards those who just happen to see things different than you by calling them cheap and broke...it says a lot about your character...just my opinion.

I'm not disagreeing with your point about respect :)
Now he is right about one thing, you must admit it : All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out.



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J_Allard said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
J_Allard said:
I didn't watch the video.. I assume that as a MS exec, he answered that people should go out and buy a PS4 instead?


Nah....he told them to basically just stick with or get a 360 instead....

Of course he did, it's the only logical answer.

If someone asked Kaz what system someone should buy if they don't want to pay to play online, is he going to answer WiiU, or is he going to answer PS3? And when he does answer PS3, are all these people with Sony avatars/signatures going to call him arrogant or crap on him like they are doing Mattrick? Not a snowballs chance in hell lol.


Which is why I agree. He is still promoting MS and their systems. Just saying the Xbox One is not for you. Do I think it is good to basically say that to potential customers...no. But do I understand where heis coming from without a doubt. But that would have been HILARIOUS had he said get a PS4 or Wii U lol.



The absence of evidence is NOT the evidence of absence...

PSN: StlUzumaki23

TheBlackNaruto said:


Which is why I agree. He is still promoting MS and their systems. Just saying the Xbox One is not for you. Do I think it is good to basically say that to potential customers...no. But do I understand where heis coming from without a doubt. But that would have been HILARIOUS had he said get a PS4 or Wii U lol.

Hillarious for sure :)
Also, I'm not sure if he would keep his job after that!



Imaginedvl said:
TheBlackNaruto said:


WOW....this post is just....wow...so disrespectful of what you call "broke" or "cheap" people smh. BIll gates a billionare wears JC penny clothes where a outfit is like $30 so I guess he is also "cheap" that was silly logic from me but what you just said is pretty much on the same wave length. The consumer has ALWAYS went with trying to find the best deals possible. That is not being cheap that is being NORMAL, most NORMAL families shop smart....people with REAL money don't always buy the NEW they are to smart for that hence the reason they have REAL MONEY. They buy what they need and some things that they may want.

I don't like responding to posts like this because they just scream a LOT of I will say "bad" things. and I have to wod myself very carefully. To say that "broke" people will buy the PS4 and not many games and the folks with "money" will go with MS is silly. I couldgo as far to say well MS will be the one that suffers seeing as you can SUPPOSEDLY share ONE game with 9 other "family" members just by letting them log into your account. Hey why buy the game if I can just download it on 9 other systems and share it with freinds and fmaily?

But anyway let me stop here and say please don't be so disrespectful towards those who just happen to see things different than you by calling them cheap and broke...it says a lot about your character...just my opinion.

I'm not disagreeing with your point about respect :)
Now he is right about one thing, you must admit it : All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out.

Well I am not going to saying ALL the people in here are saying it...maybe one or two have said it. And that alone makes them not realistic lol. Knowing NOTHING about something but saying you were getting it before hand anyway is just....well silly lol. No complaints from me there lol.



The absence of evidence is NOT the evidence of absence...

PSN: StlUzumaki23

Imaginedvl said:
antfromtashkent said:
^actually I was shocked yesterday when one of my friends who is not a gamer AT ALL started a conversation with me about how the new Xbox is going to be bad and what is MS thinking.... This whole thing is blowing up beyond just hardcore guys now.

lol I'm pretty sure you were really shocked by that :)

You know, stating this and believing that the DRM thing is bothering more than the Sony loyalists and few hardcore gamers will not make it more real.

Read this : I have 2 friends that are going to buy an Xbox One as they are not sticking on this DRM thing only and are looking at other aspects. See, nothing shocking here, it is normal to have people talking about it. As far as the "negative" impact, it is only on few hardcore and the people who were already not interrested by the Xbox One anyway (I'm not making numbers here, just look at who is constantly blasting the Xbox One on this site for instance and look at their signature, nothing out of the ordinary).

On the opposite a lot of people who are not "hardcore" gamers (up to your definition) are also looking for the Xbox One now...



*looks around*

What are you talking about? I just said what happened to me personally and it was related to a post in this thread... I guess you would have to know the people i hang out with to know what i mean... :P

I dont always bash the Xbox one, but when I do its only because people think I am.



Euphoria14 said:
brendude13 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Performing my daily run through of Yahoo and came across this. ~4,300 comments already and they are not positive.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/microsoft-gamers-no-internet-buy-360-172308365.html

That's only a very small hardcore minority though.

One of the people complaining is 60 years old! O_o

Sorry, I was being sarcastic, even though I knew I didn't make it clear.