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NotStan said:
How this guy is still around with his abysmal prediction rate is beyond me. If sony are making a "profit" then ms will be swimming in money with the significantly higher price point?

He got the $399 price point right on PS4 so....

Microsoft has a more complex APU, mainly due to the huge ESRAM and the inclusion of the Kinect 2.0(which has its own processor). 



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gigantor21 said:
Quartz said:
gigantor21 said:
How exactly does Nostradamus figure that?


I'm sure it doesn't cost $150+ more to ship to UK vs Europe. If the UK got the US price we'd pay less than £200. But i'm not expert on marketing, but I'd thought I'd point that out as yet again the UK enjoys the price difference.

LOL I was talking about Pachter. Sorry. :p


No dramas, had a feeling you'd be talking about 'That guy/gal/automated garbage disposal robot'.  I really need to read about who he/she/it is and what he/she/it does... because everytime I have seen that name mentioned they are wrong/speak the obvious??? :D



Good to see this site is still going 

KHlover said:
I'd say the GPU+RAM alone would cost about $350...

The APU + RAM costs less than $150... I will not be surprise if APU = $60 and GDDR5 = $80... it is 28nm with a simple and small chipe (< 300mm²).

The estimated BOM close to $300 for PS4 is close to reallity.



$549.00AU her in Australia so good old Sony gouging us a bit again. But alas, a far cry from the ridiculous $999.00 they gouged us with when the PS3 was released. MS have always been a bit fairer when it comes to pricing their consoles in Australia.

BUt I will pre-order a PS4 :)



NotStan said:
How this guy is still around with his abysmal prediction rate is beyond me. If sony are making a "profit" then ms will be swimming in money with the significantly higher price point?

I suspect he sells to his princely paying customers different numbers from those that he gives us for free. 



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VGKing said:
NotStan said:
How this guy is still around with his abysmal prediction rate is beyond me. If sony are making a "profit" then ms will be swimming in money with the significantly higher price point?

He got the $399 price point right on PS4 so....

Microsoft has a more complex APU, mainly due to the huge ESRAM and the inclusion of the Kinect 2.0(which has its own processor). 

If the initial kinect was sold at such high profit in terms of its costs and the initial launch price, I can see them inflating the X1 price by about $100 at least on top of the basic X1 cost, so the total cost for the console shouldn't exceed more than $399-450 if the PS4 are making a profit at $399 according to him. I think waiting for more sources would be great, he gets something right once in a blue moon, but the rest of his predictions are off by a longshot. If anything I think he got lucky with the $399 or got it leaked straight away, so just used his sources to make that prediction and worked out the cost by his own guesswork, which would most likely make it wrong.

Trusting Pachter just because he got one thing right is quite silly.



Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet a time.

What ever next? Bobbie Kotick coming out to say they don't support DRM crap?



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

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Porcupine_I said:
What ever next? Bobbie Kotick coming out to say they don't support DRM crap?

Maybe he could if gamers in return ask their elected MPs to approve a law that allow him to use slaves to develop games and/or to pay free ones with actual peanuts.   



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


BTW: doubting teh Analyst God's Holy Word is BLASPHEMY!!! I'll report all of you infidels to the religious police!!!!!



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


Don't forget to add PS+ and launch game purchases if you guys are trying to figure out if the PS4 sales will break even/profit.