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Are you jumping out because of the loss of free multiplayer?

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g911turbo on 10 June 2013
mibuokami said:
Disappointing news, thankfully I do all of my online gaming on the PC so this won't effect me. Still it was sneaky of Sony to sneak this in during the euphoric if $399, DRM-Free and Used game friendly announcements.


It was def pretty sneaky.  I guess at this point, between the two companies, Sony looks like the lesser of two evils.  Now the question becomes, what happens if Microsoft responds by dropping all DRM related items....  HIGHLY unlikely, but what if.

Would make it more interesting.  Only 100 difference.  Both require you to pay for online play.  Neither would have DRM....  Right now DRM is the difference (and to me a big one).

Just seems like this gen will pan out the same way as last, with everyone justifying what Microsoft is doing.  By next gen, Sony will have full DRM too and Microsoft will find yet another way to get in your wallet and control it.  Microsoft keeps upping the profit ante.



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Solid-Stark on 10 June 2013

For what PS+ is, i'll gladly pay for subscription.

FYI for those mislead, PS+ is required only for online play. Online services like Netflix DO NOT require PS+ subscription.



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Pristine20 on 10 June 2013
mantlepiecek said:
Pristine20 said:
mantlepiecek said:

Terrible decision by sony. The decision to get a PS4 which seemed so easy now seems very difficult. Can't buy something that will lock my game's component unless I pay every year, regardless of what I get in return because we already pay for the game in the first place.


Cant have everything. Money is needed to maintain the servers and how do you think they could pull off that price tag? You'd rather go to the likes of steam and X1 where you dlicense the games you buy? The servers still belong to sony not you and it's still reasonable for them to charge you to use them.

Honestly, I personally would have preferrred $599 with free online (because it truly is the better value long term) but we saw what was the better strategy with the ps3 and 360 launch. Sony just wised up.

But third party games have nothing to do with sony. And yes, steam is definitely a good option.

Servers costing money....is a nothingness. The low price tag I don't care.

They should have kept an option. A very basic option of free multiplayer.


Eh, I'm pretty sure 3rd party online games are still played on Sony's servers.

If you would rather pay $599 and have free online, I'm with you but as we saw with PS360 this gen, most gamers prefer it this way.



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g911turbo on 10 June 2013

Can you get PS+ on sale like you can live? Serious question.

I see one year of live on sale for 35 (sometimes even 30) all the time.



dukerx2 on 10 June 2013

Yes free online is awesome but having to get PS+ is not a bad thing.



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g911turbo on 10 June 2013
Pristine20 said:
mantlepiecek said:
Pristine20 said:
mantlepiecek said:

Terrible decision by sony. The decision to get a PS4 which seemed so easy now seems very difficult. Can't buy something that will lock my game's component unless I pay every year, regardless of what I get in return because we already pay for the game in the first place.


Cant have everything. Money is needed to maintain the servers and how do you think they could pull off that price tag? You'd rather go to the likes of steam and X1 where you dlicense the games you buy? The servers still belong to sony not you and it's still reasonable for them to charge you to use them.

Honestly, I personally would have preferrred $599 with free online (because it truly is the better value long term) but we saw what was the better strategy with the ps3 and 360 launch. Sony just wised up.

But third party games have nothing to do with sony. And yes, steam is definitely a good option.

Servers costing money....is a nothingness. The low price tag I don't care.

They should have kept an option. A very basic option of free multiplayer.


Eh, I'm pretty sure 3rd party online games are still played on Sony's servers.

If you would rather pay $599 and have free online, I'm with you but as we saw with PS360 this gen, most gamers prefer it this way.

Actually, you can thank Microsoft for this.  They gave Sony the window of opportunity they have been looking for.  No DRM, no DRM, no DRM... and pay for online games.  People still cheer.

 

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mibuokami on 10 June 2013
g911turbo said:
mibuokami said:
Disappointing news, thankfully I do all of my online gaming on the PC so this won't effect me. Still it was sneaky of Sony to sneak this in during the euphoric if $399, DRM-Free and Used game friendly announcements.


It was def pretty sneaky.  I guess at this point, between the two companies, Sony looks like the lesser of two evils.  Now the question becomes, what happens if Microsoft responds by dropping all DRM related items....  HIGHLY unlikely, but what if.

Would make it more interesting.  Only 100 difference.  Both require you to pay for online play.  Neither would have DRM....  Right now DRM is the difference (and to me a big one).

Just seems like this gen will pan out the same way as last, with everyone justifying what Microsoft is doing.  By next gen, Sony will have full DRM too and Microsoft will find yet another way to get in your wallet and control it.  Microsoft keeps upping the profit ante.

Sony feels like the more inepted evil mastermind.

Ms: Pay us or no online play.

Sony: Wait wait wait, you mean we can CHARGE for online play? Why the hell didn't we do that! Lets do that on the next console!

Ms: No used games - draconic DRM to stifle game lending and rental.

Snoy: Damn you Microsoft! Why are you always one step ahead of us?!?? Minion! Next console we're implimenting No used games policy and DRM to boot!




Leadified on 10 June 2013

It's slightly disappointing but the deals with PS+ make up for it.



sergiodaly on 10 June 2013

i already did pay for PS+ so this does not affect me... but i can see some guys not liking it... early today, i did say what i thought impossible for me to say, "i can see me pay for live gold now" (after they announce the 2 games per month).
so for me it remains the same... a subscription to get some games and deals...

here we go again with the PS+/PSN vs Xbox Live stream of threads that does not make anyone change camps but discuss it to death...

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richardhutnik on 10 June 2013
g911turbo said:
Pristine20 said:
mantlepiecek said:
Pristine20 said:
mantlepiecek said:

Terrible decision by sony. The decision to get a PS4 which seemed so easy now seems very difficult. Can't buy something that will lock my game's component unless I pay every year, regardless of what I get in return because we already pay for the game in the first place.


Cant have everything. Money is needed to maintain the servers and how do you think they could pull off that price tag? You'd rather go to the likes of steam and X1 where you dlicense the games you buy? The servers still belong to sony not you and it's still reasonable for them to charge you to use them.

Honestly, I personally would have preferrred $599 with free online (because it truly is the better value long term) but we saw what was the better strategy with the ps3 and 360 launch. Sony just wised up.

But third party games have nothing to do with sony. And yes, steam is definitely a good option.

Servers costing money....is a nothingness. The low price tag I don't care.

They should have kept an option. A very basic option of free multiplayer.


Eh, I'm pretty sure 3rd party online games are still played on Sony's servers.

If you would rather pay $599 and have free online, I'm with you but as we saw with PS360 this gen, most gamers prefer it this way.

Actually, you can thank Microsoft for this.  They gave Sony the window of opportunity they have been looking for.  No DRM, no DRM, no DRM... and pay for online games.  People still cheer.

"You don't have to be the best, just better than everybody else."

Isn't "the best" mean "better than everybody else"?  Pardon my being curious here about this, but that is what I thought it meant.  You don't need to be perfect though, just better than everyone else.